...for poor, "beleaguered" Apple:
'Fifty years ago in a small garage, a big idea was born. Apple was
founded on the simple notion that technology should be personal, and
that belief — radical at the time — changed everything.
April 1st marks 50 years of Apple. From the first Apple computer to the
Mac, from iPod to iPhone, iPad to Apple Watch and AirPods, as well as
the services we use every day — the App Store, Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, and Apple TV — we’ve spent five decades rethinking what’s possible and putting powerful tools into people’s hands. Through every breakthrough, one idea has guided us — that the world is moved forward
by people who think different.'
<https://www.apple.com/50-years-of-thinking-different/>
On 3/13/26 9:14 PM, Alan wrote:
...for poor, "beleaguered" Apple:
'Fifty years ago in a small garage, a big idea was born. Apple was
founded on the simple notion that technology should be personal, and
that belief — radical at the time — changed everything.
April 1st marks 50 years of Apple. From the first Apple computer to
the Mac, from iPod to iPhone, iPad to Apple Watch and AirPods, as well
as the services we use every day — the App Store, Apple Music, Apple
Pay, iCloud, and Apple TV — we’ve spent five decades rethinking what’s
possible and putting powerful tools into people’s hands. Through every
breakthrough, one idea has guided us — that the world is moved forward
by people who think different.'
<https://www.apple.com/50-years-of-thinking-different/>
Actually the first 30 years were spent wandering about in the
wilderness. The last 20 has been incredible, and different in a very
good way.
On 2026-03-14 10:08, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/13/26 9:14 PM, Alan wrote:
...for poor, "beleaguered" Apple:
'Fifty years ago in a small garage, a big idea was born. Apple was
founded on the simple notion that technology should be personal, and
that belief — radical at the time — changed everything.
April 1st marks 50 years of Apple. From the first Apple computer to
the Mac, from iPod to iPhone, iPad to Apple Watch and AirPods, as
well as the services we use every day — the App Store, Apple Music,
Apple Pay, iCloud, and Apple TV — we’ve spent five decades rethinking >>> what’s possible and putting powerful tools into people’s hands.
Through every breakthrough, one idea has guided us — that the world
is moved forward by people who think different.'
<https://www.apple.com/50-years-of-thinking-different/>
Actually the first 30 years were spent wandering about in the
wilderness. The last 20 has been incredible, and different in a very
good way.
You literally cannot stop yourself from being an asshole.
On 3/14/26 1:09 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-14 10:08, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/13/26 9:14 PM, Alan wrote:
...for poor, "beleaguered" Apple:
'Fifty years ago in a small garage, a big idea was born. Apple
was founded on the simple notion that technology should be
personal, and that belief — radical at the time — changed
everything.
April 1st marks 50 years of Apple. From the first Apple
computer to the Mac, from iPod to iPhone, iPad to Apple Watch
and AirPods, as well as the services we use every day — the
App Store, Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, and Apple TV —
we’ve spent five decades rethinking what’s possible and
putting powerful tools into people’s hands. Through every
breakthrough, one idea has guided us — that the world is moved
forward by people who think different.'
<https://www.apple.com/50-years-of-thinking-different/>
Actually the first 30 years were spent wandering about in the
wilderness. The last 20 has been incredible, and different in a
very good way.
You literally cannot stop yourself from being an asshole.
You literally cannot comprehend the truth. In 2006 Apple was just
getting MacOS fully up to speed,
had just released the iPod in 2004.
The iPhone (2007) and iPad (2010) were still in development.
No
Apple CPU on the market, no MacBook Air (2009) and numerous other
products and services. I am correct, 2006 marked the beginning of
what we know today as Apple. In fact, it was 2007 with the iPhone
launch that "Computer" was dropped from the company name.
FY 2006 sales were $13.9 billion, a significant increase. Last
year? $416 billion.
The first 30 years helped set the stage, with false starts and
failed products. Steve Jobs coming back was genius. Apple Auto
aside.
On 2026-03-17 11:47, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/14/26 1:09 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-14 10:08, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/13/26 9:14 PM, Alan wrote:
...for poor, "beleaguered" Apple:
'Fifty years ago in a small garage, a big idea was born. Apple
was founded on the simple notion that technology should be
personal, and that belief — radical at the time — changed
everything.
April 1st marks 50 years of Apple. From the first Apple
computer to the Mac, from iPod to iPhone, iPad to Apple Watch
and AirPods, as well as the services we use every day — the
App Store, Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, and Apple TV —
we’ve spent five decades rethinking what’s possible and
putting powerful tools into people’s hands. Through every
breakthrough, one idea has guided us — that the world is moved
forward by people who think different.'
<https://www.apple.com/50-years-of-thinking-different/>
Actually the first 30 years were spent wandering about in the
wilderness. The last 20 has been incredible, and different in a
very good way.
You literally cannot stop yourself from being an asshole.
You literally cannot comprehend the truth. In 2006 Apple was just
getting MacOS fully up to speed,
Wrong. In 2006, Mac OS X had been through a public beta, 1.0, 2.0, 3.0,
and was on it's 4th major version.
had just released the iPod in 2004.
Wrong. The first iPod was released in 2001.
The iPhone (2007) and iPad (2010) were still in development.
And how does that add up to "wandering about in the wilderness"
No
Apple CPU on the market, no MacBook Air (2009) and numerous other
products and services. I am correct, 2006 marked the beginning of
what we know today as Apple. In fact, it was 2007 with the iPhone
launch that "Computer" was dropped from the company name.
And? It would be logical to drop the name at that juncture, would it not?
FY 2006 sales were $13.9 billion, a significant increase. Last
year? $416 billion.
The first 30 years helped set the stage, with false starts and
failed products. Steve Jobs coming back was genius. Apple Auto
aside.
"False starts" that led to the entire modern personal computer landscape.
The Apple II (especially with VisiCalc) was a major impetus to IBM even deciding to make a personal computer.
The Mac is literally the model for every personal computer that came
after it.
And Apple's new era certainly did begin with the bring Steve Jobs back...
...but that was in 1996, or 30 years ago, not 20.
And the iMac was released to considerable acclaim in 1998...
...or 28 years ago.
Sure: Apple went through a bad period for about 7-8 years (from 1990-1996-7), but even then, they produced laptops that set the standard
for how essentially all laptops are designed today (keyboard at the back
and trackball, then later trackpad at the front between a natural place
to rest your wrists).
But moreover, you just had to denigrate.
I realize that you need to justify all the years you talked shit about
them; especially now you're now using Apple's products all over your life.
But at heart, you're an asshole.
That hasn't changed.
On 3/17/26 3:18 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-17 11:47, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/14/26 1:09 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-14 10:08, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/13/26 9:14 PM, Alan wrote:
...for poor, "beleaguered" Apple:
'Fifty years ago in a small garage, a big idea was born. Apple
was founded on the simple notion that technology should be
personal, and that belief — radical at the time — changed
everything.
April 1st marks 50 years of Apple. From the first Apple
computer to the Mac, from iPod to iPhone, iPad to Apple Watch
and AirPods, as well as the services we use every day — the
App Store, Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, and Apple TV —
we’ve spent five decades rethinking what’s possible and
putting powerful tools into people’s hands. Through every
breakthrough, one idea has guided us — that the world is moved
forward by people who think different.'
<https://www.apple.com/50-years-of-thinking-different/>
Actually the first 30 years were spent wandering about in the
wilderness. The last 20 has been incredible, and different in a
very good way.
You literally cannot stop yourself from being an asshole.
You literally cannot comprehend the truth. In 2006 Apple was just
getting MacOS fully up to speed,
Wrong. In 2006, Mac OS X had been through a public beta, 1.0, 2.0,
3.0, and was on it's 4th major version.
had just released the iPod in 2004.
Wrong. The first iPod was released in 2001.
The iPhone (2007) and iPad (2010) were still in development.
And how does that add up to "wandering about in the wilderness"
No
Apple CPU on the market, no MacBook Air (2009) and numerous other
products and services. I am correct, 2006 marked the beginning of
what we know today as Apple. In fact, it was 2007 with the iPhone
launch that "Computer" was dropped from the company name.
And? It would be logical to drop the name at that juncture, would it not?
FY 2006 sales were $13.9 billion, a significant increase. Last
year? $416 billion.
The first 30 years helped set the stage, with false starts and
failed products. Steve Jobs coming back was genius. Apple Auto
aside.
"False starts" that led to the entire modern personal computer landscape.
The Apple II (especially with VisiCalc) was a major impetus to IBM
even deciding to make a personal computer.
The Mac is literally the model for every personal computer that came
after it.
And Apple's new era certainly did begin with the bring Steve Jobs back...
...but that was in 1996, or 30 years ago, not 20.
And the iMac was released to considerable acclaim in 1998...
...or 28 years ago.
Sure: Apple went through a bad period for about 7-8 years (from
1990-1996-7), but even then, they produced laptops that set the
standard for how essentially all laptops are designed today (keyboard
at the back and trackball, then later trackpad at the front between a
natural place to rest your wrists).
But moreover, you just had to denigrate.
I realize that you need to justify all the years you talked shit about
them; especially now you're now using Apple's products all over your
life.
But at heart, you're an asshole.
That hasn't changed.
Really? Very selective memory you have.
Macintosh Portable
Newton
Pippin
eMate
The round mouse
Power Mac G4 Cube
20th Anniversary Macintosh
Macintosh TV (not Apple TV)
Lisa I
Firewire
iTunes Ping
eWorld
Apple III
The IBM PC and clones were as much a hardware model as the Mac. Apple
led with way with the GUI for a while.
And more recently the Apple Auto fiasco. Vision Pro has not been very successful yet. Neither has Homepod.
Siri is still not what it could be.
Maybe Google will finally fix Siri? OMG, the other day I asked Siri on CarPlay to find a restaurant and one a thousand miles away showed up as #1.
Apple was years behind with Mac OS until OSX finally emerged and set the foundation for a modern OS. It took several iterations to work out the kinks. As for the iPod I was wrong.
And, while the Mac was stuck on Intel CPU tech there was no major
difference for my needs between the MacBook and a less expensive Dell or
HP with same CPU.
As you may recall I had an M1 Mac Pro at one time, but
it bricked and I bought a Dell XPS to replace it.
I was working on a
project with a deadline and needed that extra computing power for some
very large statistical datasets.
Apple earned my business with the last 10 years with innovation that has left Intel and Android in the dust.
Loving the 13" Air I'm using right now. That's the M4 processor
difference. If not for that I'd still be using my Dell.
When I consider that this Mac Air cost $1200 and a 1990 Mac was $2400+monitor I just shake my head in wonder.
On 2026-03-18 17:14, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/17/26 3:18 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-17 11:47, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/14/26 1:09 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-14 10:08, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/13/26 9:14 PM, Alan wrote:
...for poor, "beleaguered" Apple:
'Fifty years ago in a small garage, a big idea was born. Apple
was founded on the simple notion that technology should be
personal, and that belief — radical at the time — changed
everything.
April 1st marks 50 years of Apple. From the first Apple
computer to the Mac, from iPod to iPhone, iPad to Apple Watch
and AirPods, as well as the services we use every day — the
App Store, Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, and Apple TV —
we’ve spent five decades rethinking what’s possible and
putting powerful tools into people’s hands. Through every
breakthrough, one idea has guided us — that the world is moved >>>>>>> forward by people who think different.'
<https://www.apple.com/50-years-of-thinking-different/>
Actually the first 30 years were spent wandering about in the
wilderness. The last 20 has been incredible, and different in a
very good way.
You literally cannot stop yourself from being an asshole.
You literally cannot comprehend the truth. In 2006 Apple was just
getting MacOS fully up to speed,
Wrong. In 2006, Mac OS X had been through a public beta, 1.0, 2.0,
3.0, and was on it's 4th major version.
had just released the iPod in 2004.
Wrong. The first iPod was released in 2001.
The iPhone (2007) and iPad (2010) were still in development.
And how does that add up to "wandering about in the wilderness"
No answer.
No
Apple CPU on the market, no MacBook Air (2009) and numerous other
products and services. I am correct, 2006 marked the beginning of
what we know today as Apple. In fact, it was 2007 with the iPhone
launch that "Computer" was dropped from the company name.
And? It would be logical to drop the name at that juncture, would it
not?
No answer.
FY 2006 sales were $13.9 billion, a significant increase. Last
year? $416 billion.
The first 30 years helped set the stage, with false starts and
failed products. Steve Jobs coming back was genius. Apple Auto
aside.
"False starts" that led to the entire modern personal computer
landscape.
The Apple II (especially with VisiCalc) was a major impetus to IBM
even deciding to make a personal computer.
The Mac is literally the model for every personal computer that came
after it.
And Apple's new era certainly did begin with the bring Steve Jobs
back...
...but that was in 1996, or 30 years ago, not 20.
And the iMac was released to considerable acclaim in 1998...
...or 28 years ago.
Sure: Apple went through a bad period for about 7-8 years (from
1990-1996-7), but even then, they produced laptops that set the
standard for how essentially all laptops are designed today (keyboard
at the back and trackball, then later trackpad at the front between a
natural place to rest your wrists).
But moreover, you just had to denigrate.
I realize that you need to justify all the years you talked shit
about them; especially now you're now using Apple's products all over
your life.
But at heart, you're an asshole.
That hasn't changed.
Really? Very selective memory you have.
Macintosh Portable
Newton
Pippin
eMate
The round mouse
Power Mac G4 Cube
20th Anniversary Macintosh
Macintosh TV (not Apple TV)
Lisa I
Firewire
iTunes Ping
eWorld
Apple III
But it's only for Apple that you carefully count the failures.
That's one of the things that makes you an asshole:
The way you denigrate things that others choose almost automatically.
The IBM PC and clones were as much a hardware model as the Mac. Apple
led with way with the GUI for a while.
Apple CREATED the way with the GUI.
Microsoft literally licensed part of it (and stole the rest).
And more recently the Apple Auto fiasco. Vision Pro has not been very
successful yet. Neither has Homepod.
Oh, no! "Not very successful yet"? Really?
Siri is still not what it could be. Maybe Google will finally fix
Siri? OMG, the other day I asked Siri on CarPlay to find a restaurant
and one a thousand miles away showed up as #1.
You still don't even understand the relationship between the components
in that system...
...and I call bullshit...
...just like I called out your previous bullshit.
Apple was years behind with Mac OS until OSX finally emerged and set
the foundation for a modern OS. It took several iterations to work out
the kinks. As for the iPod I was wrong.
Flat out wrong...
...but more telling is that you wrote it without even cursory fact- checking.
That's what makes you the asshole here.
And, while the Mac was stuck on Intel CPU tech there was no major
difference for my needs between the MacBook and a less expensive Dell
or HP with same CPU.
Sure there was: the OS.
As you may recall I had an M1 Mac Pro at one time, but it bricked and
I bought a Dell XPS to replace it.
Because no one else ever has a product that turns out to be DOA...
...right?
Oh, and that cursory fact-checking thing rears its head again.
You bought a MacBOOK Pro with an M1 chip, not a "Mac Pro".
I was working on a project with a deadline and needed that extra
computing power for some very large statistical datasets.
Apple earned my business with the last 10 years with innovation that
has left Intel and Android in the dust.
The OS is the heart of that innovation, and it didn't suddenly become
usable with the Apple Silicon chips, and yet you denigrated it every
chance you got until now.
Loving the 13" Air I'm using right now. That's the M4 processor
difference. If not for that I'd still be using my Dell.
And Windows 11. Ugh.
When I consider that this Mac Air cost $1200 and a 1990 Mac was
$2400+monitor I just shake my head in wonder.
You've only just cottoned to the fact that tech prices have tumbled over
the years, asshole?
This is reminiscent of you taking what I told you about Formula F (neé Ford) racing and then turning around and announcing it to me as if you
were revealing it for the first time.
On 3/19/26 2:06 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-18 17:14, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/17/26 3:18 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-17 11:47, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/14/26 1:09 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-14 10:08, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/13/26 9:14 PM, Alan wrote:
...for poor, "beleaguered" Apple:
'Fifty years ago in a small garage, a big idea was born. Apple >>>>>>>> was founded on the simple notion that technology should be
personal, and that belief — radical at the time — changed
everything.
April 1st marks 50 years of Apple. From the first Apple
computer to the Mac, from iPod to iPhone, iPad to Apple Watch
and AirPods, as well as the services we use every day — the
App Store, Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, and Apple TV —
we’ve spent five decades rethinking what’s possible and
putting powerful tools into people’s hands. Through every
breakthrough, one idea has guided us — that the world is moved >>>>>>>> forward by people who think different.'
<https://www.apple.com/50-years-of-thinking-different/>
Actually the first 30 years were spent wandering about in the
wilderness. The last 20 has been incredible, and different in a
very good way.
You literally cannot stop yourself from being an asshole.
You literally cannot comprehend the truth. In 2006 Apple was just
getting MacOS fully up to speed,
Wrong. In 2006, Mac OS X had been through a public beta, 1.0, 2.0,
3.0, and was on it's 4th major version.
had just released the iPod in 2004.
Wrong. The first iPod was released in 2001.
The iPhone (2007) and iPad (2010) were still in development.
And how does that add up to "wandering about in the wilderness"
No answer.
No
Apple CPU on the market, no MacBook Air (2009) and numerous other
products and services. I am correct, 2006 marked the beginning of
what we know today as Apple. In fact, it was 2007 with the iPhone
launch that "Computer" was dropped from the company name.
And? It would be logical to drop the name at that juncture, would it
not?
No answer.
FY 2006 sales were $13.9 billion, a significant increase. Last
year? $416 billion.
The first 30 years helped set the stage, with false starts and
failed products. Steve Jobs coming back was genius. Apple Auto
aside.
"False starts" that led to the entire modern personal computer
landscape.
The Apple II (especially with VisiCalc) was a major impetus to IBM
even deciding to make a personal computer.
The Mac is literally the model for every personal computer that came
after it.
And Apple's new era certainly did begin with the bring Steve Jobs
back...
...but that was in 1996, or 30 years ago, not 20.
And the iMac was released to considerable acclaim in 1998...
...or 28 years ago.
Sure: Apple went through a bad period for about 7-8 years (from
1990-1996-7), but even then, they produced laptops that set the
standard for how essentially all laptops are designed today (keyboard >>>> at the back and trackball, then later trackpad at the front between a >>>> natural place to rest your wrists).
But moreover, you just had to denigrate.
I realize that you need to justify all the years you talked shit
about them; especially now you're now using Apple's products all over >>>> your life.
But at heart, you're an asshole.
That hasn't changed.
Really? Very selective memory you have.
Macintosh Portable
Newton
Pippin
eMate
The round mouse
Power Mac G4 Cube
20th Anniversary Macintosh
Macintosh TV (not Apple TV)
Lisa I
Firewire
iTunes Ping
eWorld
Apple III
But it's only for Apple that you carefully count the failures.
That's one of the things that makes you an asshole:
The way you denigrate things that others choose almost automatically.
The IBM PC and clones were as much a hardware model as the Mac. Apple
led with way with the GUI for a while.
Apple CREATED the way with the GUI.
Microsoft literally licensed part of it (and stole the rest).
And more recently the Apple Auto fiasco. Vision Pro has not been very
successful yet. Neither has Homepod.
Oh, no! "Not very successful yet"? Really?
Siri is still not what it could be. Maybe Google will finally fix
Siri? OMG, the other day I asked Siri on CarPlay to find a restaurant
and one a thousand miles away showed up as #1.
You still don't even understand the relationship between the components
in that system...
...and I call bullshit...
...just like I called out your previous bullshit.
Apple was years behind with Mac OS until OSX finally emerged and set
the foundation for a modern OS. It took several iterations to work out
the kinks. As for the iPod I was wrong.
Flat out wrong...
...but more telling is that you wrote it without even cursory fact-
checking.
That's what makes you the asshole here.
And, while the Mac was stuck on Intel CPU tech there was no major
difference for my needs between the MacBook and a less expensive Dell
or HP with same CPU.
Sure there was: the OS.
As you may recall I had an M1 Mac Pro at one time, but it bricked and
I bought a Dell XPS to replace it.
Because no one else ever has a product that turns out to be DOA...
...right?
Oh, and that cursory fact-checking thing rears its head again.
You bought a MacBOOK Pro with an M1 chip, not a "Mac Pro".
I was working on a project with a deadline and needed that extra
computing power for some very large statistical datasets.
Apple earned my business with the last 10 years with innovation that
has left Intel and Android in the dust.
The OS is the heart of that innovation, and it didn't suddenly become
usable with the Apple Silicon chips, and yet you denigrated it every
chance you got until now.
Loving the 13" Air I'm using right now. That's the M4 processor
difference. If not for that I'd still be using my Dell.
And Windows 11. Ugh.
When I consider that this Mac Air cost $1200 and a 1990 Mac was
$2400+monitor I just shake my head in wonder.
You've only just cottoned to the fact that tech prices have tumbled over
the years, asshole?
This is reminiscent of you taking what I told you about Formula F (neé
Ford) racing and then turning around and announcing it to me as if you
were revealing it for the first time.
Wow, you just can't admit that Apple has had it's issues. Deflection, deflection, deflection. Nitpicking, nitpicking, nitpicking.
You don't seem to understand that Siri on a phone or tablet is a
different experience on CarPlay. No, I do not totally understand why. Go
buy a modern car with CarPlay then you can testify from personal experience.
On 2026-03-20, Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/19/26 2:06 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-18 17:14, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/17/26 3:18 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-17 11:47, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/14/26 1:09 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-14 10:08, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/13/26 9:14 PM, Alan wrote:
...for poor, "beleaguered" Apple:
'Fifty years ago in a small garage, a big idea was born. Apple >>>>>>>>> was founded on the simple notion that technology should be
personal, and that belief — radical at the time — changed >>>>>>>>> everything.
April 1st marks 50 years of Apple. From the first Apple
computer to the Mac, from iPod to iPhone, iPad to Apple Watch >>>>>>>>> and AirPods, as well as the services we use every day — the >>>>>>>>> App Store, Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, and Apple TV —
we’ve spent five decades rethinking what’s possible and
putting powerful tools into people’s hands. Through every
breakthrough, one idea has guided us — that the world is moved >>>>>>>>> forward by people who think different.'
<https://www.apple.com/50-years-of-thinking-different/>
Actually the first 30 years were spent wandering about in the
wilderness. The last 20 has been incredible, and different in a >>>>>>>> very good way.
You literally cannot stop yourself from being an asshole.
You literally cannot comprehend the truth. In 2006 Apple was just
getting MacOS fully up to speed,
Wrong. In 2006, Mac OS X had been through a public beta, 1.0, 2.0,
3.0, and was on it's 4th major version.
had just released the iPod in 2004.
Wrong. The first iPod was released in 2001.
The iPhone (2007) and iPad (2010) were still in development.
And how does that add up to "wandering about in the wilderness"
No answer.
No
Apple CPU on the market, no MacBook Air (2009) and numerous other
products and services. I am correct, 2006 marked the beginning of
what we know today as Apple. In fact, it was 2007 with the iPhone
launch that "Computer" was dropped from the company name.
And? It would be logical to drop the name at that juncture, would it >>>>> not?
No answer.
FY 2006 sales were $13.9 billion, a significant increase. Last
year? $416 billion.
The first 30 years helped set the stage, with false starts and
failed products. Steve Jobs coming back was genius. Apple Auto
aside.
"False starts" that led to the entire modern personal computer
landscape.
The Apple II (especially with VisiCalc) was a major impetus to IBM
even deciding to make a personal computer.
The Mac is literally the model for every personal computer that came >>>>> after it.
And Apple's new era certainly did begin with the bring Steve Jobs
back...
...but that was in 1996, or 30 years ago, not 20.
And the iMac was released to considerable acclaim in 1998...
...or 28 years ago.
Sure: Apple went through a bad period for about 7-8 years (from
1990-1996-7), but even then, they produced laptops that set the
standard for how essentially all laptops are designed today (keyboard >>>>> at the back and trackball, then later trackpad at the front between a >>>>> natural place to rest your wrists).
But moreover, you just had to denigrate.
I realize that you need to justify all the years you talked shit
about them; especially now you're now using Apple's products all over >>>>> your life.
But at heart, you're an asshole.
That hasn't changed.
Really? Very selective memory you have.
Macintosh Portable
Newton
Pippin
eMate
The round mouse
Power Mac G4 Cube
20th Anniversary Macintosh
Macintosh TV (not Apple TV)
Lisa I
Firewire
iTunes Ping
eWorld
Apple III
But it's only for Apple that you carefully count the failures.
That's one of the things that makes you an asshole:
The way you denigrate things that others choose almost automatically.
The IBM PC and clones were as much a hardware model as the Mac. Apple
led with way with the GUI for a while.
Apple CREATED the way with the GUI.
Microsoft literally licensed part of it (and stole the rest).
And more recently the Apple Auto fiasco. Vision Pro has not been very
successful yet. Neither has Homepod.
Oh, no! "Not very successful yet"? Really?
Siri is still not what it could be. Maybe Google will finally fix
Siri? OMG, the other day I asked Siri on CarPlay to find a restaurant
and one a thousand miles away showed up as #1.
You still don't even understand the relationship between the components
in that system...
...and I call bullshit...
...just like I called out your previous bullshit.
Apple was years behind with Mac OS until OSX finally emerged and set
the foundation for a modern OS. It took several iterations to work out >>>> the kinks. As for the iPod I was wrong.
Flat out wrong...
...but more telling is that you wrote it without even cursory fact-
checking.
That's what makes you the asshole here.
And, while the Mac was stuck on Intel CPU tech there was no major
difference for my needs between the MacBook and a less expensive Dell
or HP with same CPU.
Sure there was: the OS.
As you may recall I had an M1 Mac Pro at one time, but it bricked and
I bought a Dell XPS to replace it.
Because no one else ever has a product that turns out to be DOA...
...right?
Oh, and that cursory fact-checking thing rears its head again.
You bought a MacBOOK Pro with an M1 chip, not a "Mac Pro".
I was working on a project with a deadline and needed that extra
computing power for some very large statistical datasets.
Apple earned my business with the last 10 years with innovation that
has left Intel and Android in the dust.
The OS is the heart of that innovation, and it didn't suddenly become
usable with the Apple Silicon chips, and yet you denigrated it every
chance you got until now.
Loving the 13" Air I'm using right now. That's the M4 processor
difference. If not for that I'd still be using my Dell.
And Windows 11. Ugh.
When I consider that this Mac Air cost $1200 and a 1990 Mac was
$2400+monitor I just shake my head in wonder.
You've only just cottoned to the fact that tech prices have tumbled over >>> the years, asshole?
This is reminiscent of you taking what I told you about Formula F (neé
Ford) racing and then turning around and announcing it to me as if you
were revealing it for the first time.
Wow, you just can't admit that Apple has had it's issues. Deflection,
deflection, deflection. Nitpicking, nitpicking, nitpicking.
You don't seem to understand that Siri on a phone or tablet is a
different experience on CarPlay. No, I do not totally understand why. Go
buy a modern car with CarPlay then you can testify from personal experience.
How so?
I have 2 2024 cars I purchased new in 2024 and at least for what I use Siri for
it seems to work the same way.
For example with Apple CarPlay running in the car, I can say something like "Hey Siri"
"Take me home using Waze"
And it will display Waze on the car screen and do it.
This is on both cars.
What have you found to be different?
On 3/19/26 2:06 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-18 17:14, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/17/26 3:18 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-17 11:47, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/14/26 1:09 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-14 10:08, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/13/26 9:14 PM, Alan wrote:
...for poor, "beleaguered" Apple:
'Fifty years ago in a small garage, a big idea was born. Apple >>>>>>>> was founded on the simple notion that technology should be
personal, and that belief — radical at the time — changed
everything.
April 1st marks 50 years of Apple. From the first Apple
computer to the Mac, from iPod to iPhone, iPad to Apple Watch
and AirPods, as well as the services we use every day — the
App Store, Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, and Apple TV —
we’ve spent five decades rethinking what’s possible and
putting powerful tools into people’s hands. Through every
breakthrough, one idea has guided us — that the world is moved >>>>>>>> forward by people who think different.'
<https://www.apple.com/50-years-of-thinking-different/>
Actually the first 30 years were spent wandering about in the
wilderness. The last 20 has been incredible, and different in a
very good way.
You literally cannot stop yourself from being an asshole.
You literally cannot comprehend the truth. In 2006 Apple was just
getting MacOS fully up to speed,
Wrong. In 2006, Mac OS X had been through a public beta, 1.0, 2.0,
3.0, and was on it's 4th major version.
had just released the iPod in 2004.
Wrong. The first iPod was released in 2001.
The iPhone (2007) and iPad (2010) were still in development.
And how does that add up to "wandering about in the wilderness"
No answer.
No
Apple CPU on the market, no MacBook Air (2009) and numerous other
products and services. I am correct, 2006 marked the beginning of
what we know today as Apple. In fact, it was 2007 with the iPhone
launch that "Computer" was dropped from the company name.
And? It would be logical to drop the name at that juncture, would it
not?
No answer.
FY 2006 sales were $13.9 billion, a significant increase. Last
year? $416 billion.
The first 30 years helped set the stage, with false starts and
failed products. Steve Jobs coming back was genius. Apple Auto
aside.
"False starts" that led to the entire modern personal computer
landscape.
The Apple II (especially with VisiCalc) was a major impetus to IBM
even deciding to make a personal computer.
The Mac is literally the model for every personal computer that came
after it.
And Apple's new era certainly did begin with the bring Steve Jobs
back...
...but that was in 1996, or 30 years ago, not 20.
And the iMac was released to considerable acclaim in 1998...
...or 28 years ago.
Sure: Apple went through a bad period for about 7-8 years (from
1990-1996-7), but even then, they produced laptops that set the
standard for how essentially all laptops are designed today
(keyboard at the back and trackball, then later trackpad at the
front between a natural place to rest your wrists).
But moreover, you just had to denigrate.
I realize that you need to justify all the years you talked shit
about them; especially now you're now using Apple's products all
over your life.
But at heart, you're an asshole.
That hasn't changed.
Really? Very selective memory you have.
Macintosh Portable
Newton
Pippin
eMate
The round mouse
Power Mac G4 Cube
20th Anniversary Macintosh
Macintosh TV (not Apple TV)
Lisa I
Firewire
iTunes Ping
eWorld
Apple III
But it's only for Apple that you carefully count the failures.
That's one of the things that makes you an asshole:
The way you denigrate things that others choose almost automatically.
The IBM PC and clones were as much a hardware model as the Mac. Apple
led with way with the GUI for a while.
Apple CREATED the way with the GUI.
Microsoft literally licensed part of it (and stole the rest).
And more recently the Apple Auto fiasco. Vision Pro has not been very
successful yet. Neither has Homepod.
Oh, no! "Not very successful yet"? Really?
Siri is still not what it could be. Maybe Google will finally fix
Siri? OMG, the other day I asked Siri on CarPlay to find a restaurant
and one a thousand miles away showed up as #1.
You still don't even understand the relationship between the
components in that system...
...and I call bullshit...
...just like I called out your previous bullshit.
Apple was years behind with Mac OS until OSX finally emerged and set
the foundation for a modern OS. It took several iterations to work
out the kinks. As for the iPod I was wrong.
Flat out wrong...
...but more telling is that you wrote it without even cursory fact-
checking.
That's what makes you the asshole here.
And, while the Mac was stuck on Intel CPU tech there was no major
difference for my needs between the MacBook and a less expensive Dell
or HP with same CPU.
Sure there was: the OS.
As you may recall I had an M1 Mac Pro at one time, but it bricked and
I bought a Dell XPS to replace it.
Because no one else ever has a product that turns out to be DOA...
...right?
Oh, and that cursory fact-checking thing rears its head again.
You bought a MacBOOK Pro with an M1 chip, not a "Mac Pro".
I was working on a project with a deadline and needed that extra
computing power for some very large statistical datasets.
Apple earned my business with the last 10 years with innovation that
has left Intel and Android in the dust.
The OS is the heart of that innovation, and it didn't suddenly become
usable with the Apple Silicon chips, and yet you denigrated it every
chance you got until now.
Loving the 13" Air I'm using right now. That's the M4 processor
difference. If not for that I'd still be using my Dell.
And Windows 11. Ugh.
When I consider that this Mac Air cost $1200 and a 1990 Mac was
$2400+monitor I just shake my head in wonder.
You've only just cottoned to the fact that tech prices have tumbled
over the years, asshole?
This is reminiscent of you taking what I told you about Formula F (neé
Ford) racing and then turning around and announcing it to me as if you
were revealing it for the first time.
Wow, you just can't admit that Apple has had it's issues. Deflection, deflection, deflection. Nitpicking, nitpicking, nitpicking.
You don't seem to understand that Siri on a phone or tablet is a
different experience on CarPlay. No, I do not totally understand why. Go
buy a modern car with CarPlay then you can testify from personal
experience.
I did check the iPod date because I had no idea. I did not get that right.
Finally, Windows 11 still runs fine on all 3 of my laptops. It's the hardware that is not so great after 4 years. The battery is shot, it
runs hot, and stutters badly when dragging windows across screens.
Still, it served its purpose for which it was purchased. And, I learned
a lot about Mac OS in the 2 weeks I had the MacBOOK.
On 2026-03-20, Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/19/26 2:06 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-18 17:14, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/17/26 3:18 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-17 11:47, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/14/26 1:09 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-14 10:08, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/13/26 9:14 PM, Alan wrote:
...for poor, "beleaguered" Apple:
'Fifty years ago in a small garage, a big idea was born. Apple >>>>>>>>> was founded on the simple notion that technology should be
personal, and that belief — radical at the time — changed >>>>>>>>> everything.
April 1st marks 50 years of Apple. From the first Apple
computer to the Mac, from iPod to iPhone, iPad to Apple Watch >>>>>>>>> and AirPods, as well as the services we use every day — the >>>>>>>>> App Store, Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, and Apple TV —
we’ve spent five decades rethinking what’s possible and
putting powerful tools into people’s hands. Through every
breakthrough, one idea has guided us — that the world is moved >>>>>>>>> forward by people who think different.'
<https://www.apple.com/50-years-of-thinking-different/>
Actually the first 30 years were spent wandering about in the
wilderness. The last 20 has been incredible, and different in a >>>>>>>> very good way.
You literally cannot stop yourself from being an asshole.
You literally cannot comprehend the truth. In 2006 Apple was just
getting MacOS fully up to speed,
Wrong. In 2006, Mac OS X had been through a public beta, 1.0, 2.0,
3.0, and was on it's 4th major version.
had just released the iPod in 2004.
Wrong. The first iPod was released in 2001.
The iPhone (2007) and iPad (2010) were still in development.
And how does that add up to "wandering about in the wilderness"
No answer.
No
Apple CPU on the market, no MacBook Air (2009) and numerous other
products and services. I am correct, 2006 marked the beginning of
what we know today as Apple. In fact, it was 2007 with the iPhone
launch that "Computer" was dropped from the company name.
And? It would be logical to drop the name at that juncture, would it >>>>> not?
No answer.
FY 2006 sales were $13.9 billion, a significant increase. Last
year? $416 billion.
The first 30 years helped set the stage, with false starts and
failed products. Steve Jobs coming back was genius. Apple Auto
aside.
"False starts" that led to the entire modern personal computer
landscape.
The Apple II (especially with VisiCalc) was a major impetus to IBM
even deciding to make a personal computer.
The Mac is literally the model for every personal computer that came >>>>> after it.
And Apple's new era certainly did begin with the bring Steve Jobs
back...
...but that was in 1996, or 30 years ago, not 20.
And the iMac was released to considerable acclaim in 1998...
...or 28 years ago.
Sure: Apple went through a bad period for about 7-8 years (from
1990-1996-7), but even then, they produced laptops that set the
standard for how essentially all laptops are designed today (keyboard >>>>> at the back and trackball, then later trackpad at the front between a >>>>> natural place to rest your wrists).
But moreover, you just had to denigrate.
I realize that you need to justify all the years you talked shit
about them; especially now you're now using Apple's products all over >>>>> your life.
But at heart, you're an asshole.
That hasn't changed.
Really? Very selective memory you have.
Macintosh Portable
Newton
Pippin
eMate
The round mouse
Power Mac G4 Cube
20th Anniversary Macintosh
Macintosh TV (not Apple TV)
Lisa I
Firewire
iTunes Ping
eWorld
Apple III
But it's only for Apple that you carefully count the failures.
That's one of the things that makes you an asshole:
The way you denigrate things that others choose almost automatically.
The IBM PC and clones were as much a hardware model as the Mac. Apple
led with way with the GUI for a while.
Apple CREATED the way with the GUI.
Microsoft literally licensed part of it (and stole the rest).
And more recently the Apple Auto fiasco. Vision Pro has not been very
successful yet. Neither has Homepod.
Oh, no! "Not very successful yet"? Really?
Siri is still not what it could be. Maybe Google will finally fix
Siri? OMG, the other day I asked Siri on CarPlay to find a restaurant
and one a thousand miles away showed up as #1.
You still don't even understand the relationship between the components
in that system...
...and I call bullshit...
...just like I called out your previous bullshit.
Apple was years behind with Mac OS until OSX finally emerged and set
the foundation for a modern OS. It took several iterations to work out >>>> the kinks. As for the iPod I was wrong.
Flat out wrong...
...but more telling is that you wrote it without even cursory fact-
checking.
That's what makes you the asshole here.
And, while the Mac was stuck on Intel CPU tech there was no major
difference for my needs between the MacBook and a less expensive Dell
or HP with same CPU.
Sure there was: the OS.
As you may recall I had an M1 Mac Pro at one time, but it bricked and
I bought a Dell XPS to replace it.
Because no one else ever has a product that turns out to be DOA...
...right?
Oh, and that cursory fact-checking thing rears its head again.
You bought a MacBOOK Pro with an M1 chip, not a "Mac Pro".
I was working on a project with a deadline and needed that extra
computing power for some very large statistical datasets.
Apple earned my business with the last 10 years with innovation that
has left Intel and Android in the dust.
The OS is the heart of that innovation, and it didn't suddenly become
usable with the Apple Silicon chips, and yet you denigrated it every
chance you got until now.
Loving the 13" Air I'm using right now. That's the M4 processor
difference. If not for that I'd still be using my Dell.
And Windows 11. Ugh.
When I consider that this Mac Air cost $1200 and a 1990 Mac was
$2400+monitor I just shake my head in wonder.
You've only just cottoned to the fact that tech prices have tumbled over >>> the years, asshole?
This is reminiscent of you taking what I told you about Formula F (neé
Ford) racing and then turning around and announcing it to me as if you
were revealing it for the first time.
Wow, you just can't admit that Apple has had it's issues. Deflection,
deflection, deflection. Nitpicking, nitpicking, nitpicking.
You don't seem to understand that Siri on a phone or tablet is a
different experience on CarPlay. No, I do not totally understand why. Go
buy a modern car with CarPlay then you can testify from personal experience.
How so?
I have 2 2024 cars I purchased new in 2024 and at least for what I use Siri for
it seems to work the same way.
For example with Apple CarPlay running in the car, I can say something like "Hey Siri"
"Take me home using Waze"
And it will display Waze on the car screen and do it.
This is on both cars.
What have you found to be different?
On 2026-03-20 06:55, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/19/26 2:06 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-18 17:14, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/17/26 3:18 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-17 11:47, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/14/26 1:09 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-14 10:08, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/13/26 9:14 PM, Alan wrote:
...for poor, "beleaguered" Apple:
'Fifty years ago in a small garage, a big idea was born. Apple >>>>>>>>> was founded on the simple notion that technology should be
personal, and that belief — radical at the time — changed >>>>>>>>> everything.
April 1st marks 50 years of Apple. From the first Apple
computer to the Mac, from iPod to iPhone, iPad to Apple Watch >>>>>>>>> and AirPods, as well as the services we use every day — the >>>>>>>>> App Store, Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, and Apple TV —
we’ve spent five decades rethinking what’s possible and
putting powerful tools into people’s hands. Through every
breakthrough, one idea has guided us — that the world is moved >>>>>>>>> forward by people who think different.'
<https://www.apple.com/50-years-of-thinking-different/>
Actually the first 30 years were spent wandering about in the >>>>>>>> wilderness. The last 20 has been incredible, and different in a >>>>>>>> very good way.
You literally cannot stop yourself from being an asshole.
You literally cannot comprehend the truth. In 2006 Apple was just >>>>>> getting MacOS fully up to speed,
Wrong. In 2006, Mac OS X had been through a public beta, 1.0, 2.0,
3.0, and was on it's 4th major version.
had just released the iPod in 2004.
Wrong. The first iPod was released in 2001.
The iPhone (2007) and iPad (2010) were still in development.
And how does that add up to "wandering about in the wilderness"
No answer.
No
Apple CPU on the market, no MacBook Air (2009) and numerous other
products and services. I am correct, 2006 marked the beginning of
what we know today as Apple. In fact, it was 2007 with the iPhone
launch that "Computer" was dropped from the company name.
And? It would be logical to drop the name at that juncture, would
it not?
No answer.
FY 2006 sales were $13.9 billion, a significant increase. Last
year? $416 billion.
The first 30 years helped set the stage, with false starts and
failed products. Steve Jobs coming back was genius. Apple Auto
aside.
"False starts" that led to the entire modern personal computer
landscape.
The Apple II (especially with VisiCalc) was a major impetus to IBM
even deciding to make a personal computer.
The Mac is literally the model for every personal computer that
came after it.
And Apple's new era certainly did begin with the bring Steve Jobs
back...
...but that was in 1996, or 30 years ago, not 20.
And the iMac was released to considerable acclaim in 1998...
...or 28 years ago.
Sure: Apple went through a bad period for about 7-8 years (from
1990-1996-7), but even then, they produced laptops that set the
standard for how essentially all laptops are designed today
(keyboard at the back and trackball, then later trackpad at the
front between a natural place to rest your wrists).
But moreover, you just had to denigrate.
I realize that you need to justify all the years you talked shit
about them; especially now you're now using Apple's products all
over your life.
But at heart, you're an asshole.
That hasn't changed.
Really? Very selective memory you have.
Macintosh Portable
Newton
Pippin
eMate
The round mouse
Power Mac G4 Cube
20th Anniversary Macintosh
Macintosh TV (not Apple TV)
Lisa I
Firewire
iTunes Ping
eWorld
Apple III
But it's only for Apple that you carefully count the failures.
That's one of the things that makes you an asshole:
The way you denigrate things that others choose almost automatically.
The IBM PC and clones were as much a hardware model as the Mac.
Apple led with way with the GUI for a while.
Apple CREATED the way with the GUI.
Microsoft literally licensed part of it (and stole the rest).
And more recently the Apple Auto fiasco. Vision Pro has not been
very successful yet. Neither has Homepod.
Oh, no! "Not very successful yet"? Really?
Siri is still not what it could be. Maybe Google will finally fix
Siri? OMG, the other day I asked Siri on CarPlay to find a
restaurant and one a thousand miles away showed up as #1.
You still don't even understand the relationship between the
components in that system...
...and I call bullshit...
...just like I called out your previous bullshit.
Apple was years behind with Mac OS until OSX finally emerged and set
the foundation for a modern OS. It took several iterations to work
out the kinks. As for the iPod I was wrong.
Flat out wrong...
...but more telling is that you wrote it without even cursory fact-
checking.
That's what makes you the asshole here.
And, while the Mac was stuck on Intel CPU tech there was no major
difference for my needs between the MacBook and a less expensive
Dell or HP with same CPU.
Sure there was: the OS.
As you may recall I had an M1 Mac Pro at one time, but it bricked
and I bought a Dell XPS to replace it.
Because no one else ever has a product that turns out to be DOA...
...right?
Oh, and that cursory fact-checking thing rears its head again.
You bought a MacBOOK Pro with an M1 chip, not a "Mac Pro".
I was working on a project with a deadline and needed that extra
computing power for some very large statistical datasets.
Apple earned my business with the last 10 years with innovation that
has left Intel and Android in the dust.
The OS is the heart of that innovation, and it didn't suddenly become
usable with the Apple Silicon chips, and yet you denigrated it every
chance you got until now.
Loving the 13" Air I'm using right now. That's the M4 processor
difference. If not for that I'd still be using my Dell.
And Windows 11. Ugh.
When I consider that this Mac Air cost $1200 and a 1990 Mac was
$2400+monitor I just shake my head in wonder.
You've only just cottoned to the fact that tech prices have tumbled
over the years, asshole?
This is reminiscent of you taking what I told you about Formula F
(neé Ford) racing and then turning around and announcing it to me as
if you were revealing it for the first time.
Wow, you just can't admit that Apple has had it's issues. Deflection,
deflection, deflection. Nitpicking, nitpicking, nitpicking.
I never denied they've had issues, asshole.
You don't seem to understand that Siri on a phone or tablet is a
different experience on CarPlay. No, I do not totally understand why.
Go buy a modern car with CarPlay then you can testify from personal
experience.
I understand that Siri isn't changed by CarPlay.
I did check the iPod date because I had no idea. I did not get that
right.
And you claim to have a PhD?
Finally, Windows 11 still runs fine on all 3 of my laptops. It's the
hardware that is not so great after 4 years. The battery is shot, it
runs hot, and stutters badly when dragging windows across screens.
Still, it served its purpose for which it was purchased. And, I
learned a lot about Mac OS in the 2 weeks I had the MacBOOK.
Riiiiiiiiight.
On 3/21/26 4:40 PM, pothead wrote:
On 2026-03-20, Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/19/26 2:06 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-18 17:14, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/17/26 3:18 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-17 11:47, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/14/26 1:09 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-14 10:08, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/13/26 9:14 PM, Alan wrote:
...for poor, "beleaguered" Apple:
'Fifty years ago in a small garage, a big idea was born. Apple >>>>>>>>>> was founded on the simple notion that technology should be >>>>>>>>>> personal, and that belief — radical at the time — changed >>>>>>>>>> everything.
April 1st marks 50 years of Apple. From the first Apple
computer to the Mac, from iPod to iPhone, iPad to Apple Watch >>>>>>>>>> and AirPods, as well as the services we use every day — the >>>>>>>>>> App Store, Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, and Apple TV — >>>>>>>>>> we’ve spent five decades rethinking what’s possible and >>>>>>>>>> putting powerful tools into people’s hands. Through every >>>>>>>>>> breakthrough, one idea has guided us — that the world is moved >>>>>>>>>> forward by people who think different.'
<https://www.apple.com/50-years-of-thinking-different/>
Actually the first 30 years were spent wandering about in the >>>>>>>>> wilderness. The last 20 has been incredible, and different in a >>>>>>>>> very good way.
You literally cannot stop yourself from being an asshole.
You literally cannot comprehend the truth. In 2006 Apple was just >>>>>>> getting MacOS fully up to speed,
Wrong. In 2006, Mac OS X had been through a public beta, 1.0, 2.0, >>>>>> 3.0, and was on it's 4th major version.
had just released the iPod in 2004.
Wrong. The first iPod was released in 2001.
The iPhone (2007) and iPad (2010) were still in development.
And how does that add up to "wandering about in the wilderness"
No answer.
No
Apple CPU on the market, no MacBook Air (2009) and numerous other >>>>>>> products and services. I am correct, 2006 marked the beginning of >>>>>>> what we know today as Apple. In fact, it was 2007 with the iPhone >>>>>>> launch that "Computer" was dropped from the company name.
And? It would be logical to drop the name at that juncture, would it >>>>>> not?
No answer.
FY 2006 sales were $13.9 billion, a significant increase. Last
year? $416 billion.
The first 30 years helped set the stage, with false starts and
failed products. Steve Jobs coming back was genius. Apple Auto
aside.
"False starts" that led to the entire modern personal computer
landscape.
The Apple II (especially with VisiCalc) was a major impetus to IBM >>>>>> even deciding to make a personal computer.
The Mac is literally the model for every personal computer that came >>>>>> after it.
And Apple's new era certainly did begin with the bring Steve Jobs
back...
...but that was in 1996, or 30 years ago, not 20.
And the iMac was released to considerable acclaim in 1998...
...or 28 years ago.
Sure: Apple went through a bad period for about 7-8 years (from
1990-1996-7), but even then, they produced laptops that set the
standard for how essentially all laptops are designed today (keyboard >>>>>> at the back and trackball, then later trackpad at the front between a >>>>>> natural place to rest your wrists).
But moreover, you just had to denigrate.
I realize that you need to justify all the years you talked shit
about them; especially now you're now using Apple's products all over >>>>>> your life.
But at heart, you're an asshole.
That hasn't changed.
Really? Very selective memory you have.
Macintosh Portable
Newton
Pippin
eMate
The round mouse
Power Mac G4 Cube
20th Anniversary Macintosh
Macintosh TV (not Apple TV)
Lisa I
Firewire
iTunes Ping
eWorld
Apple III
But it's only for Apple that you carefully count the failures.
That's one of the things that makes you an asshole:
The way you denigrate things that others choose almost automatically.
The IBM PC and clones were as much a hardware model as the Mac. Apple >>>>> led with way with the GUI for a while.
Apple CREATED the way with the GUI.
Microsoft literally licensed part of it (and stole the rest).
And more recently the Apple Auto fiasco. Vision Pro has not been very >>>>> successful yet. Neither has Homepod.
Oh, no! "Not very successful yet"? Really?
Siri is still not what it could be. Maybe Google will finally fix
Siri? OMG, the other day I asked Siri on CarPlay to find a restaurant >>>>> and one a thousand miles away showed up as #1.
You still don't even understand the relationship between the components >>>> in that system...
...and I call bullshit...
...just like I called out your previous bullshit.
Apple was years behind with Mac OS until OSX finally emerged and set >>>>> the foundation for a modern OS. It took several iterations to work out >>>>> the kinks. As for the iPod I was wrong.
Flat out wrong...
...but more telling is that you wrote it without even cursory fact-
checking.
That's what makes you the asshole here.
And, while the Mac was stuck on Intel CPU tech there was no major
difference for my needs between the MacBook and a less expensive Dell >>>>> or HP with same CPU.
Sure there was: the OS.
As you may recall I had an M1 Mac Pro at one time, but it bricked and >>>>> I bought a Dell XPS to replace it.
Because no one else ever has a product that turns out to be DOA...
...right?
Oh, and that cursory fact-checking thing rears its head again.
You bought a MacBOOK Pro with an M1 chip, not a "Mac Pro".
I was working on a project with a deadline and needed that extra
computing power for some very large statistical datasets.
Apple earned my business with the last 10 years with innovation that >>>>> has left Intel and Android in the dust.
The OS is the heart of that innovation, and it didn't suddenly become
usable with the Apple Silicon chips, and yet you denigrated it every
chance you got until now.
Loving the 13" Air I'm using right now. That's the M4 processor
difference. If not for that I'd still be using my Dell.
And Windows 11. Ugh.
When I consider that this Mac Air cost $1200 and a 1990 Mac was
$2400+monitor I just shake my head in wonder.
You've only just cottoned to the fact that tech prices have tumbled over >>>> the years, asshole?
This is reminiscent of you taking what I told you about Formula F (neé >>>> Ford) racing and then turning around and announcing it to me as if you >>>> were revealing it for the first time.
Wow, you just can't admit that Apple has had it's issues. Deflection,
deflection, deflection. Nitpicking, nitpicking, nitpicking.
You don't seem to understand that Siri on a phone or tablet is a
different experience on CarPlay. No, I do not totally understand why. Go >>> buy a modern car with CarPlay then you can testify from personal experience.
How so?
I have 2 2024 cars I purchased new in 2024 and at least for what I use Siri for
it seems to work the same way.
For example with Apple CarPlay running in the car, I can say something like >> "Hey Siri"
"Take me home using Waze"
And it will display Waze on the car screen and do it.
This is on both cars.
What have you found to be different?
Siri does work fine for simple tasks like that. It's just not as
reliable, especially for Google Maps, for me.
On 2026-03-22, Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/21/26 4:40 PM, pothead wrote:
On 2026-03-20, Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/19/26 2:06 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-18 17:14, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/17/26 3:18 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-17 11:47, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/14/26 1:09 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-14 10:08, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/13/26 9:14 PM, Alan wrote:
...for poor, "beleaguered" Apple:
'Fifty years ago in a small garage, a big idea was born. Apple >>>>>>>>>>> was founded on the simple notion that technology should be >>>>>>>>>>> personal, and that belief — radical at the time — changed >>>>>>>>>>> everything.
April 1st marks 50 years of Apple. From the first Apple
computer to the Mac, from iPod to iPhone, iPad to Apple Watch >>>>>>>>>>> and AirPods, as well as the services we use every day — the >>>>>>>>>>> App Store, Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, and Apple TV — >>>>>>>>>>> we’ve spent five decades rethinking what’s possible and >>>>>>>>>>> putting powerful tools into people’s hands. Through every >>>>>>>>>>> breakthrough, one idea has guided us — that the world is moved >>>>>>>>>>> forward by people who think different.'
<https://www.apple.com/50-years-of-thinking-different/>
Actually the first 30 years were spent wandering about in the >>>>>>>>>> wilderness. The last 20 has been incredible, and different in a >>>>>>>>>> very good way.
You literally cannot stop yourself from being an asshole.
You literally cannot comprehend the truth. In 2006 Apple was just >>>>>>>> getting MacOS fully up to speed,
Wrong. In 2006, Mac OS X had been through a public beta, 1.0, 2.0, >>>>>>> 3.0, and was on it's 4th major version.
had just released the iPod in 2004.
Wrong. The first iPod was released in 2001.
The iPhone (2007) and iPad (2010) were still in development.
And how does that add up to "wandering about in the wilderness"
No answer.
No
Apple CPU on the market, no MacBook Air (2009) and numerous other >>>>>>>> products and services. I am correct, 2006 marked the beginning of >>>>>>>> what we know today as Apple. In fact, it was 2007 with the iPhone >>>>>>>> launch that "Computer" was dropped from the company name.
And? It would be logical to drop the name at that juncture, would it >>>>>>> not?
No answer.
FY 2006 sales were $13.9 billion, a significant increase. Last >>>>>>>> year? $416 billion.
The first 30 years helped set the stage, with false starts and >>>>>>>> failed products. Steve Jobs coming back was genius. Apple Auto >>>>>>>> aside.
"False starts" that led to the entire modern personal computer
landscape.
The Apple II (especially with VisiCalc) was a major impetus to IBM >>>>>>> even deciding to make a personal computer.
The Mac is literally the model for every personal computer that came >>>>>>> after it.
And Apple's new era certainly did begin with the bring Steve Jobs >>>>>>> back...
...but that was in 1996, or 30 years ago, not 20.
And the iMac was released to considerable acclaim in 1998...
...or 28 years ago.
Sure: Apple went through a bad period for about 7-8 years (from
1990-1996-7), but even then, they produced laptops that set the
standard for how essentially all laptops are designed today (keyboard >>>>>>> at the back and trackball, then later trackpad at the front between a >>>>>>> natural place to rest your wrists).
But moreover, you just had to denigrate.
I realize that you need to justify all the years you talked shit >>>>>>> about them; especially now you're now using Apple's products all over >>>>>>> your life.
But at heart, you're an asshole.
That hasn't changed.
Really? Very selective memory you have.
Macintosh Portable
Newton
Pippin
eMate
The round mouse
Power Mac G4 Cube
20th Anniversary Macintosh
Macintosh TV (not Apple TV)
Lisa I
Firewire
iTunes Ping
eWorld
Apple III
But it's only for Apple that you carefully count the failures.
That's one of the things that makes you an asshole:
The way you denigrate things that others choose almost automatically. >>>>>
The IBM PC and clones were as much a hardware model as the Mac. Apple >>>>>> led with way with the GUI for a while.
Apple CREATED the way with the GUI.
Microsoft literally licensed part of it (and stole the rest).
And more recently the Apple Auto fiasco. Vision Pro has not been very >>>>>> successful yet. Neither has Homepod.
Oh, no! "Not very successful yet"? Really?
Siri is still not what it could be. Maybe Google will finally fix
Siri? OMG, the other day I asked Siri on CarPlay to find a restaurant >>>>>> and one a thousand miles away showed up as #1.
You still don't even understand the relationship between the components >>>>> in that system...
...and I call bullshit...
...just like I called out your previous bullshit.
Apple was years behind with Mac OS until OSX finally emerged and set >>>>>> the foundation for a modern OS. It took several iterations to work out >>>>>> the kinks. As for the iPod I was wrong.
Flat out wrong...
...but more telling is that you wrote it without even cursory fact-
checking.
That's what makes you the asshole here.
And, while the Mac was stuck on Intel CPU tech there was no major
difference for my needs between the MacBook and a less expensive Dell >>>>>> or HP with same CPU.
Sure there was: the OS.
As you may recall I had an M1 Mac Pro at one time, but it bricked and >>>>>> I bought a Dell XPS to replace it.
Because no one else ever has a product that turns out to be DOA...
...right?
Oh, and that cursory fact-checking thing rears its head again.
You bought a MacBOOK Pro with an M1 chip, not a "Mac Pro".
I was working on a project with a deadline and needed that extra
computing power for some very large statistical datasets.
Apple earned my business with the last 10 years with innovation that >>>>>> has left Intel and Android in the dust.
The OS is the heart of that innovation, and it didn't suddenly become >>>>> usable with the Apple Silicon chips, and yet you denigrated it every >>>>> chance you got until now.
Loving the 13" Air I'm using right now. That's the M4 processor
difference. If not for that I'd still be using my Dell.
And Windows 11. Ugh.
When I consider that this Mac Air cost $1200 and a 1990 Mac was
$2400+monitor I just shake my head in wonder.
You've only just cottoned to the fact that tech prices have tumbled over >>>>> the years, asshole?
This is reminiscent of you taking what I told you about Formula F (neé >>>>> Ford) racing and then turning around and announcing it to me as if you >>>>> were revealing it for the first time.
Wow, you just can't admit that Apple has had it's issues. Deflection,
deflection, deflection. Nitpicking, nitpicking, nitpicking.
You don't seem to understand that Siri on a phone or tablet is a
different experience on CarPlay. No, I do not totally understand why. Go >>>> buy a modern car with CarPlay then you can testify from personal experience.
How so?
I have 2 2024 cars I purchased new in 2024 and at least for what I use Siri for
it seems to work the same way.
For example with Apple CarPlay running in the car, I can say something like >>> "Hey Siri"
"Take me home using Waze"
And it will display Waze on the car screen and do it.
This is on both cars.
What have you found to be different?
Siri does work fine for simple tasks like that. It's just not as
reliable, especially for Google Maps, for me.
Do you have any specifics for me to try?
I loaded Google Maps on my iPhone 14 running iOS 26.31 and it seems to work fine.
For example I can say : Hey Siri... Take me to 123 Main street using Google Maps
and it works fine.
So specifically what issues are you encountering?
On 3/21/26 5:05 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-20 06:55, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/19/26 2:06 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-18 17:14, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/17/26 3:18 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-17 11:47, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/14/26 1:09 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-14 10:08, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/13/26 9:14 PM, Alan wrote:
...for poor, "beleaguered" Apple:
'Fifty years ago in a small garage, a big idea was born. Apple >>>>>>>>>> was founded on the simple notion that technology should be >>>>>>>>>> personal, and that belief — radical at the time — changed >>>>>>>>>> everything.
April 1st marks 50 years of Apple. From the first Apple
computer to the Mac, from iPod to iPhone, iPad to Apple Watch >>>>>>>>>> and AirPods, as well as the services we use every day — the >>>>>>>>>> App Store, Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, and Apple TV — >>>>>>>>>> we’ve spent five decades rethinking what’s possible and >>>>>>>>>> putting powerful tools into people’s hands. Through every >>>>>>>>>> breakthrough, one idea has guided us — that the world is moved >>>>>>>>>> forward by people who think different.'
<https://www.apple.com/50-years-of-thinking-different/>
Actually the first 30 years were spent wandering about in the >>>>>>>>> wilderness. The last 20 has been incredible, and different in a >>>>>>>>> very good way.
You literally cannot stop yourself from being an asshole.
You literally cannot comprehend the truth. In 2006 Apple was just >>>>>>> getting MacOS fully up to speed,
Wrong. In 2006, Mac OS X had been through a public beta, 1.0, 2.0, >>>>>> 3.0, and was on it's 4th major version.
had just released the iPod in 2004.
Wrong. The first iPod was released in 2001.
The iPhone (2007) and iPad (2010) were still in development.
And how does that add up to "wandering about in the wilderness"
No answer.
No
Apple CPU on the market, no MacBook Air (2009) and numerous other >>>>>>> products and services. I am correct, 2006 marked the beginning of >>>>>>> what we know today as Apple. In fact, it was 2007 with the iPhone >>>>>>> launch that "Computer" was dropped from the company name.
And? It would be logical to drop the name at that juncture, would >>>>>> it not?
No answer.
FY 2006 sales were $13.9 billion, a significant increase. Last
year? $416 billion.
The first 30 years helped set the stage, with false starts and
failed products. Steve Jobs coming back was genius. Apple Auto
aside.
"False starts" that led to the entire modern personal computer
landscape.
The Apple II (especially with VisiCalc) was a major impetus to IBM >>>>>> even deciding to make a personal computer.
The Mac is literally the model for every personal computer that
came after it.
And Apple's new era certainly did begin with the bring Steve Jobs >>>>>> back...
...but that was in 1996, or 30 years ago, not 20.
And the iMac was released to considerable acclaim in 1998...
...or 28 years ago.
Sure: Apple went through a bad period for about 7-8 years (from
1990-1996-7), but even then, they produced laptops that set the
standard for how essentially all laptops are designed today
(keyboard at the back and trackball, then later trackpad at the
front between a natural place to rest your wrists).
But moreover, you just had to denigrate.
I realize that you need to justify all the years you talked shit
about them; especially now you're now using Apple's products all
over your life.
But at heart, you're an asshole.
That hasn't changed.
Really? Very selective memory you have.
Macintosh Portable
Newton
Pippin
eMate
The round mouse
Power Mac G4 Cube
20th Anniversary Macintosh
Macintosh TV (not Apple TV)
Lisa I
Firewire
iTunes Ping
eWorld
Apple III
But it's only for Apple that you carefully count the failures.
That's one of the things that makes you an asshole:
The way you denigrate things that others choose almost automatically.
The IBM PC and clones were as much a hardware model as the Mac.
Apple led with way with the GUI for a while.
Apple CREATED the way with the GUI.
Microsoft literally licensed part of it (and stole the rest).
And more recently the Apple Auto fiasco. Vision Pro has not been
very successful yet. Neither has Homepod.
Oh, no! "Not very successful yet"? Really?
Siri is still not what it could be. Maybe Google will finally fix
Siri? OMG, the other day I asked Siri on CarPlay to find a
restaurant and one a thousand miles away showed up as #1.
You still don't even understand the relationship between the
components in that system...
...and I call bullshit...
...just like I called out your previous bullshit.
Apple was years behind with Mac OS until OSX finally emerged and
set the foundation for a modern OS. It took several iterations to
work out the kinks. As for the iPod I was wrong.
Flat out wrong...
...but more telling is that you wrote it without even cursory fact-
checking.
That's what makes you the asshole here.
And, while the Mac was stuck on Intel CPU tech there was no major
difference for my needs between the MacBook and a less expensive
Dell or HP with same CPU.
Sure there was: the OS.
As you may recall I had an M1 Mac Pro at one time, but it bricked
and I bought a Dell XPS to replace it.
Because no one else ever has a product that turns out to be DOA...
...right?
Oh, and that cursory fact-checking thing rears its head again.
You bought a MacBOOK Pro with an M1 chip, not a "Mac Pro".
I was working on a project with a deadline and needed that extra
computing power for some very large statistical datasets.
Apple earned my business with the last 10 years with innovation
that has left Intel and Android in the dust.
The OS is the heart of that innovation, and it didn't suddenly
become usable with the Apple Silicon chips, and yet you denigrated
it every chance you got until now.
Loving the 13" Air I'm using right now. That's the M4 processor
difference. If not for that I'd still be using my Dell.
And Windows 11. Ugh.
When I consider that this Mac Air cost $1200 and a 1990 Mac was
$2400+monitor I just shake my head in wonder.
You've only just cottoned to the fact that tech prices have tumbled
over the years, asshole?
This is reminiscent of you taking what I told you about Formula F
(neé Ford) racing and then turning around and announcing it to me as >>>> if you were revealing it for the first time.
Wow, you just can't admit that Apple has had it's issues. Deflection,
deflection, deflection. Nitpicking, nitpicking, nitpicking.
I never denied they've had issues, asshole.
You don't seem to understand that Siri on a phone or tablet is a
different experience on CarPlay. No, I do not totally understand why.
Go buy a modern car with CarPlay then you can testify from personal
experience.
I understand that Siri isn't changed by CarPlay.
I did check the iPod date because I had no idea. I did not get that
right.
And you claim to have a PhD?
Finally, Windows 11 still runs fine on all 3 of my laptops. It's the
hardware that is not so great after 4 years. The battery is shot, it
runs hot, and stutters badly when dragging windows across screens.
Still, it served its purpose for which it was purchased. And, I
learned a lot about Mac OS in the 2 weeks I had the MacBOOK.
Riiiiiiiiight.
I mistook an AI summary on the iPod release date as fact. Should have checked source.
Years ago I showed you a video of Siri running on CarPlay not able to
find an address. You found it on your iPhone, but it was not connected
to CarPlay. You proved my point.
On 2026-03-22 09:49, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/21/26 5:05 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-20 06:55, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/19/26 2:06 PM, Alan wrote:I never denied they've had issues, asshole.
On 2026-03-18 17:14, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/17/26 3:18 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-17 11:47, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/14/26 1:09 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-14 10:08, Tom Elam wrote:
On 3/13/26 9:14 PM, Alan wrote:
...for poor, "beleaguered" Apple:
'Fifty years ago in a small garage, a big idea was born. Apple >>>>>>>>>>> was founded on the simple notion that technology should be >>>>>>>>>>> personal, and that belief — radical at the time — changed >>>>>>>>>>> everything.
April 1st marks 50 years of Apple. From the first Apple
computer to the Mac, from iPod to iPhone, iPad to Apple Watch >>>>>>>>>>> and AirPods, as well as the services we use every day — the >>>>>>>>>>> App Store, Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, and Apple TV — >>>>>>>>>>> we’ve spent five decades rethinking what’s possible and >>>>>>>>>>> putting powerful tools into people’s hands. Through every >>>>>>>>>>> breakthrough, one idea has guided us — that the world is moved >>>>>>>>>>> forward by people who think different.'
<https://www.apple.com/50-years-of-thinking-different/>
Actually the first 30 years were spent wandering about in the >>>>>>>>>> wilderness. The last 20 has been incredible, and different in a >>>>>>>>>> very good way.
You literally cannot stop yourself from being an asshole.
You literally cannot comprehend the truth. In 2006 Apple was
just getting MacOS fully up to speed,
Wrong. In 2006, Mac OS X had been through a public beta, 1.0,
2.0, 3.0, and was on it's 4th major version.
had just released the iPod in 2004.
Wrong. The first iPod was released in 2001.
The iPhone (2007) and iPad (2010) were still in development.
And how does that add up to "wandering about in the wilderness"
No answer.
No
Apple CPU on the market, no MacBook Air (2009) and numerous other >>>>>>>> products and services. I am correct, 2006 marked the beginning of >>>>>>>> what we know today as Apple. In fact, it was 2007 with the iPhone >>>>>>>> launch that "Computer" was dropped from the company name.
And? It would be logical to drop the name at that juncture, would >>>>>>> it not?
No answer.
FY 2006 sales were $13.9 billion, a significant increase. Last >>>>>>>> year? $416 billion.
The first 30 years helped set the stage, with false starts and >>>>>>>> failed products. Steve Jobs coming back was genius. Apple Auto >>>>>>>> aside.
"False starts" that led to the entire modern personal computer
landscape.
The Apple II (especially with VisiCalc) was a major impetus to
IBM even deciding to make a personal computer.
The Mac is literally the model for every personal computer that >>>>>>> came after it.
And Apple's new era certainly did begin with the bring Steve Jobs >>>>>>> back...
...but that was in 1996, or 30 years ago, not 20.
And the iMac was released to considerable acclaim in 1998...
...or 28 years ago.
Sure: Apple went through a bad period for about 7-8 years (from >>>>>>> 1990-1996-7), but even then, they produced laptops that set the >>>>>>> standard for how essentially all laptops are designed today
(keyboard at the back and trackball, then later trackpad at the >>>>>>> front between a natural place to rest your wrists).
But moreover, you just had to denigrate.
I realize that you need to justify all the years you talked shit >>>>>>> about them; especially now you're now using Apple's products all >>>>>>> over your life.
But at heart, you're an asshole.
That hasn't changed.
Really? Very selective memory you have.
Macintosh Portable
Newton
Pippin
eMate
The round mouse
Power Mac G4 Cube
20th Anniversary Macintosh
Macintosh TV (not Apple TV)
Lisa I
Firewire
iTunes Ping
eWorld
Apple III
But it's only for Apple that you carefully count the failures.
That's one of the things that makes you an asshole:
The way you denigrate things that others choose almost automatically. >>>>>
The IBM PC and clones were as much a hardware model as the Mac.
Apple led with way with the GUI for a while.
Apple CREATED the way with the GUI.
Microsoft literally licensed part of it (and stole the rest).
And more recently the Apple Auto fiasco. Vision Pro has not been
very successful yet. Neither has Homepod.
Oh, no! "Not very successful yet"? Really?
Siri is still not what it could be. Maybe Google will finally fix >>>>>> Siri? OMG, the other day I asked Siri on CarPlay to find a
restaurant and one a thousand miles away showed up as #1.
You still don't even understand the relationship between the
components in that system...
...and I call bullshit...
...just like I called out your previous bullshit.
Apple was years behind with Mac OS until OSX finally emerged and
set the foundation for a modern OS. It took several iterations to >>>>>> work out the kinks. As for the iPod I was wrong.
Flat out wrong...
...but more telling is that you wrote it without even cursory fact- >>>>> checking.
That's what makes you the asshole here.
And, while the Mac was stuck on Intel CPU tech there was no major >>>>>> difference for my needs between the MacBook and a less expensive
Dell or HP with same CPU.
Sure there was: the OS.
As you may recall I had an M1 Mac Pro at one time, but it bricked >>>>>> and I bought a Dell XPS to replace it.
Because no one else ever has a product that turns out to be DOA...
...right?
Oh, and that cursory fact-checking thing rears its head again.
You bought a MacBOOK Pro with an M1 chip, not a "Mac Pro".
I was working on a project with a deadline and needed that extra
computing power for some very large statistical datasets.
Apple earned my business with the last 10 years with innovation
that has left Intel and Android in the dust.
The OS is the heart of that innovation, and it didn't suddenly
become usable with the Apple Silicon chips, and yet you denigrated
it every chance you got until now.
Loving the 13" Air I'm using right now. That's the M4 processor
difference. If not for that I'd still be using my Dell.
And Windows 11. Ugh.
When I consider that this Mac Air cost $1200 and a 1990 Mac was
$2400+monitor I just shake my head in wonder.
You've only just cottoned to the fact that tech prices have tumbled >>>>> over the years, asshole?
This is reminiscent of you taking what I told you about Formula F
(neé Ford) racing and then turning around and announcing it to me
as if you were revealing it for the first time.
Wow, you just can't admit that Apple has had it's issues.
Deflection, deflection, deflection. Nitpicking, nitpicking, nitpicking. >>>
You don't seem to understand that Siri on a phone or tablet is a
different experience on CarPlay. No, I do not totally understand
why. Go buy a modern car with CarPlay then you can testify from
personal experience.
I understand that Siri isn't changed by CarPlay.
I did check the iPod date because I had no idea. I did not get that
right.
And you claim to have a PhD?
Finally, Windows 11 still runs fine on all 3 of my laptops. It's the
hardware that is not so great after 4 years. The battery is shot, it
runs hot, and stutters badly when dragging windows across screens.
Still, it served its purpose for which it was purchased. And, I
learned a lot about Mac OS in the 2 weeks I had the MacBOOK.
Riiiiiiiiight.
I mistook an AI summary on the iPod release date as fact. Should have
checked source.
Years ago I showed you a video of Siri running on CarPlay not able to
find an address. You found it on your iPhone, but it was not connected
to CarPlay. You proved my point.
That's not what happened at all.
You're such a poor liar, asshole.
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