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  • Re: I just picked up a MacBook Neo

    From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy on Thu Jun 4 22:44:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Thu, 4 Jun 2026 11:04:28 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

    On 5/31/26 8:44 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    But if they’re not leftover surplus chips any more, then the price
    will have to rise.

    Those binned chip are accumulating now.

    Surely the business would make more profit if it produced less such
    low-value waste.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From chrisv@chrisv@nospam.invalid to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy on Thu Jun 4 18:30:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Lawrence DOliveiro wrote:

    Tom Elam wrote:

    Lawrence DOliveiro wrote:

    But if theyre not leftover surplus chips any more, then the price
    will have to rise.

    Those binned chip are accumulating now.

    Surely the business would make more profit if it produced less such
    low-value waste.

    Is that Apple's fault? They just can't win, with you, can they?
    --
    "I tend to take people at their word." - some thing, lying
    shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From -hh@recscuba_google@huntzinger.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy on Fri Jun 5 17:07:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    Lawrence DÿOliveiro wrote:

    Tom Elam wrote:

    Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    But if they’re not leftover surplus chips any more, then the price
    will have to rise.

    Those binned chip are accumulating now.

    Surely the business would make more profit if it produced less such
    low-value waste.

    Is that Apple's fault? They just can't win, with you, can they?


    Larry’s either trolling, or he has no fucking clue how chips are manufactured.
    Of course, it could be both!

    -hh

    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy on Thu Jun 18 07:32:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Sat, 30 May 2026 13:42:53 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

    It is very nice.

    Enjoy it while stocks last. Because Tim Cook has admitted the price is
    going to go up.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Jun 18 15:35:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Jun 18, 2026 at 12:32:46 AM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote <11106uu$2e9gl$4@dont-email.me>:

    On Sat, 30 May 2026 13:42:53 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

    It is very nice.

    Enjoy it while stocks last. Because Tim Cook has admitted the price is
    going to go up.

    Whole industry is facing that.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy on Thu Jun 18 10:18:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-06-18 00:32, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Sat, 30 May 2026 13:42:53 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

    It is very nice.

    Enjoy it while stocks last. Because Tim Cook has admitted the price is
    going to go up.

    So?

    EVERYONE's prices are going to go up.

    EVERYONE making computing devices that need memory and storage are going
    to experience the fact that rising demand has driven up the cost of
    purchasing them.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Jun 18 23:10:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 18 Jun 2026 15:35:13 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Jun 18, 2026 at 12:32:46 AM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote <11106uu$2e9gl$4@dont-email.me>:

    On Sat, 30 May 2026 13:42:53 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

    It is very nice.

    Enjoy it while stocks last. Because Tim Cook has admitted the price
    is going to go up.

    Whole industry is facing that.

    Yes, but the Neo was supposed to be something special! You know --
    Apple’s ability to lock in supplier deals, and all that?
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Jun 18 16:11:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-06-18 16:10, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On 18 Jun 2026 15:35:13 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Jun 18, 2026 at 12:32:46 AM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote
    <11106uu$2e9gl$4@dont-email.me>:

    On Sat, 30 May 2026 13:42:53 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

    It is very nice.

    Enjoy it while stocks last. Because Tim Cook has admitted the price
    is going to go up.

    Whole industry is facing that.

    Yes, but the Neo was supposed to be something special! You know --
    Apple’s ability to lock in supplier deals, and all that?

    Almost all deals have TERMS.

    Or is that not something that's occurred to you?
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Chris Ahlstrom@OFeem1987@teleworm.us to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy on Fri Jun 19 07:05:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Alan wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS:

    On 2026-06-18 00:32, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Sat, 30 May 2026 13:42:53 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

    It is very nice.

    Enjoy it while stocks last. Because Tim Cook has admitted the price is
    going to go up.

    So?

    EVERYONE's prices are going to go up.

    EVERYONE making computing devices that need memory and storage are going
    to experience the fact that rising demand has driven up the cost of purchasing them.

    The last time I checked, the mini PC I bought had more than
    doubled in price.
    --
    `O' LEVEL COUNTER CULTURE
    Timewarp allowed: 3 hours. Do not scrawl situationalist graffiti in the margins or stub your rollups in the inkwells. Orange may be worn. Credit
    will be given to candidates who self-actualise.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Jun 19 14:55:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Jun 18, 2026 at 4:10:43 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote <1111tti$2uj2s$10@dont-email.me>:

    On 18 Jun 2026 15:35:13 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Jun 18, 2026 at 12:32:46 AM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote
    <11106uu$2e9gl$4@dont-email.me>:

    On Sat, 30 May 2026 13:42:53 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

    It is very nice.

    Enjoy it while stocks last. Because Tim Cook has admitted the price
    is going to go up.

    Whole industry is facing that.

    Yes, but the Neo was supposed to be something special! You know --
    Apple’s ability to lock in supplier deals, and all that?

    It was supposed to be immune from market forces? Where did you get that?
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Jun 19 22:56:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 19 Jun 2026 14:55:54 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Jun 18, 2026 at 4:10:43 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote <1111tti$2uj2s$10@dont-email.me>:

    On 18 Jun 2026 15:35:13 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Jun 18, 2026 at 12:32:46 AM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote
    <11106uu$2e9gl$4@dont-email.me>:

    On Sat, 30 May 2026 13:42:53 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

    It is very nice.

    Enjoy it while stocks last. Because Tim Cook has admitted the
    price is going to go up.

    Whole industry is facing that.

    Yes, but the Neo was supposed to be something special! You know --
    Apple’s ability to lock in supplier deals, and all that?

    It was supposed to be immune from market forces? Where did you get
    that?

    From the responses I got when I pointed out that a machine that looks
    expensive but sold cheaply was perhaps not all it appeared to be ...

    Some of which came from you, if I recall rightly ...
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Jun 19 23:00:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Jun 19, 2026 at 3:56:11 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote <1114hea$3l4ud$7@dont-email.me>:

    On 19 Jun 2026 14:55:54 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Jun 18, 2026 at 4:10:43 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote
    <1111tti$2uj2s$10@dont-email.me>:

    On 18 Jun 2026 15:35:13 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Jun 18, 2026 at 12:32:46 AM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote
    <11106uu$2e9gl$4@dont-email.me>:

    On Sat, 30 May 2026 13:42:53 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

    It is very nice.

    Enjoy it while stocks last. Because Tim Cook has admitted the
    price is going to go up.

    Whole industry is facing that.

    Yes, but the Neo was supposed to be something special! You know --
    Apple’s ability to lock in supplier deals, and all that?

    It was supposed to be immune from market forces? Where did you get
    that?

    From the responses I got when I pointed out that a machine that looks expensive but sold cheaply was perhaps not all it appeared to be ...

    Some of which came from you, if I recall rightly ...

    I doubt even you know what you are talking about. I know I never said it was immune to market forces, or magical, or whatever. I doubt anyone else did. You are just looking for a reaction.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Jun 20 00:07:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 19 Jun 2026 23:00:15 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Jun 19, 2026 at 3:56:11 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote <1114hea$3l4ud$7@dont-email.me>:

    On 19 Jun 2026 14:55:54 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Jun 18, 2026 at 4:10:43 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote
    <1111tti$2uj2s$10@dont-email.me>:

    On 18 Jun 2026 15:35:13 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Jun 18, 2026 at 12:32:46 AM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote
    <11106uu$2e9gl$4@dont-email.me>:

    On Sat, 30 May 2026 13:42:53 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

    It is very nice.

    Enjoy it while stocks last. Because Tim Cook has admitted the
    price is going to go up.

    Whole industry is facing that.

    Yes, but the Neo was supposed to be something special! You know --
    Apple’s ability to lock in supplier deals, and all that?

    It was supposed to be immune from market forces? Where did you get
    that?

    From the responses I got when I pointed out that a machine that
    looks expensive but sold cheaply was perhaps not all it appeared to
    be ...

    Some of which came from you, if I recall rightly ...

    I doubt even you know what you are talking about. I know I never
    said it was immune to market forces, or magical, or whatever.

    Strawman, much?

    Let the record show that it was not I who brought the phrase “immune
    to market forces” or the word “magical” into this discussion.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Jun 20 00:15:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Jun 19, 2026 at 5:07:33 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote <1114lk5$3m8ht$3@dont-email.me>:

    On 19 Jun 2026 23:00:15 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Jun 19, 2026 at 3:56:11 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote
    <1114hea$3l4ud$7@dont-email.me>:

    On 19 Jun 2026 14:55:54 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Jun 18, 2026 at 4:10:43 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote
    <1111tti$2uj2s$10@dont-email.me>:

    On 18 Jun 2026 15:35:13 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Jun 18, 2026 at 12:32:46 AM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote >>>>>> <11106uu$2e9gl$4@dont-email.me>:

    On Sat, 30 May 2026 13:42:53 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

    It is very nice.

    Enjoy it while stocks last. Because Tim Cook has admitted the
    price is going to go up.

    Whole industry is facing that.

    Yes, but the Neo was supposed to be something special! You know --
    Apple’s ability to lock in supplier deals, and all that?

    It was supposed to be immune from market forces? Where did you get
    that?

    From the responses I got when I pointed out that a machine that
    looks expensive but sold cheaply was perhaps not all it appeared to
    be ...

    Some of which came from you, if I recall rightly ...

    I doubt even you know what you are talking about. I know I never
    said it was immune to market forces, or magical, or whatever.

    Notice you offer no evidence. No MID. No quote.

    Apple is not immune from market forces. Nobody said they were.

    Strawman, much?

    Let the record show that it was not I who brought the phrase “immune
    to market forces” or the word “magical” into this discussion.

    Irrelevant to the point.

    Me:
    -----
    It was supposed to be immune from market forces? Where did you
    get that?
    -----

    You:
    -----
    From the responses I got when I pointed out that a machine
    that looks expensive but sold cheaply was perhaps not all
    it appeared to be ...

    Some of which came from you, if I recall rightly ...
    -----
    You were wrong.

    The Neo is an impressive machine for the price... and selling very well. Like any item its price might go up. With the current market conditions it likely will go up soon. No surprise and nobody said otherwise.

    You are just making things up to get attention.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Jun 20 03:07:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 20 Jun 2026 00:15:19 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    You:
    -----
    From the responses I got when I pointed out that a machine
    that looks expensive but sold cheaply was perhaps not all
    it appeared to be ...

    Some of which came from you, if I recall rightly ...
    -----
    You were wrong.

    The Neo is an impressive machine for the price... and selling very well.

    Maybe soon to be not so impressive, and maybe not sell so “very well” ... --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Jun 20 17:53:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Jun 19, 2026 at 8:07:58 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote <111506d$3odnn$6@dont-email.me>:

    On 20 Jun 2026 00:15:19 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    You:
    -----
    From the responses I got when I pointed out that a machine
    that looks expensive but sold cheaply was perhaps not all
    it appeared to be ...

    Some of which came from you, if I recall rightly ...
    -----
    You were wrong.

    The Neo is an impressive machine for the price... and selling very well.

    Maybe soon to be not so impressive, and maybe not sell so “very well” ...

    Pick a date.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy on Thu Jun 25 03:09:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Sun, 31 May 2026 13:33:33 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

    On May 31, 2026 at 1:45:23 AM EDT, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro"
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 30 May 2026 13:42:53 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

    Very light. Runs fine and quite fast. Astonishing build quality
    for the price.

    I wonder what happens after those surplus Iphone ARM chips run out
    ...

    I wonder what happens when you ever have a coherent thought...

    Haven’t you heard? Tim Cook is already warning that prices are going up.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Jun 25 23:23:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Sat, 20 Jun 2026 03:07:58 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:

    On 20 Jun 2026 00:15:19 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    You:
    -----
    From the responses I got when I pointed out that a machine that
    looks expensive but sold cheaply was perhaps not all it
    appeared to be ...

    Some of which came from you, if I recall rightly ...
    -----
    You were wrong.

    The Neo is an impressive machine for the price... and selling very
    well.

    Maybe soon to be not so impressive, and maybe not sell so “very
    well” ...

    Aaaannd ... the prices have gone up.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy on Thu Jun 25 20:44:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-06-24 11:09 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Sun, 31 May 2026 13:33:33 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

    On May 31, 2026 at 1:45:23 AM EDT, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro"
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 30 May 2026 13:42:53 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

    Very light. Runs fine and quite fast. Astonishing build quality
    for the price.

    I wonder what happens after those surplus Iphone ARM chips run out
    ...

    I wonder what happens when you ever have a coherent thought...

    Haven’t you heard? Tim Cook is already warning that prices are going up.

    Here in Canada, they've already gone up. I noticed that the MacBook Neo
    starts at $949 CAD. It reminds me how much of a great deal I got on this machine.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    M4 MacBook Air
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Jun 25 20:17:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-06-25 16:23, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Sat, 20 Jun 2026 03:07:58 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:

    On 20 Jun 2026 00:15:19 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    You:
    -----
    From the responses I got when I pointed out that a machine that
    looks expensive but sold cheaply was perhaps not all it
    appeared to be ...

    Some of which came from you, if I recall rightly ...
    -----
    You were wrong.

    The Neo is an impressive machine for the price... and selling very
    well.

    Maybe soon to be not so impressive, and maybe not sell so “very
    well” ...

    Aaaannd ... the prices have gone up.

    As have the prices of EVERY OTHER PERSONAL COMPUTER.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2