If you just bought a new M4 iPad or Mac, then you've been scammed. The
new M5 chips are coming this year ... and no doubt the M6 will arrive
next year.
Forget the M4, the M5 iPad Pro and Macs
are on track for release this year
<https://www.macworld.com/article/2599225/rumor-claims-an-m5-ipad-pro-and-macs-are-on-track-for-this-year.html>
Apple really needs to slow down and stop making continual minor tweaks
(and gimmicky additions) to their products every year. All that does is
piss off the customer who just bought something and cause most people
to not bother buying the next new toy because another one will be
released soon. Apple also needs to simplify their over-complicated
product line-up, ditch the non-repair / non-upgrade designs, and get
rid of the silly MacOS codenames. Time to bring back Steve Jobs again!
;-)
If you just bought a new M4 iPad or Mac, then you've been scammed. The
new M5 chips are coming this year ... and no doubt the M6 will arrive
next year.
Forget the M4, the M5 iPad Pro and Macs
are on track for release this year
Apple really needs to slow down and stop making continual minor tweaks
(and gimmicky additions) to their products every year. All that does is
piss off the customer who just bought something and cause most people
to not bother buying the next new toy because another one will be
released soon. Apple also needs to simplify their over-complicated
product line-up, ditch the non-repair / non-upgrade designs, and get
rid of the silly MacOS codenames. Time to bring back Steve Jobs again!
;-)
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On 2025-02-05, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
If you just bought a new M4 iPad or Mac, then you've been scammed. The
new M5 chips are coming this year ... and no doubt the M6 will arrive
next year.
Forget the M4, the M5 iPad Pro and Macs
are on track for release this year
Apple really needs to slow down and stop making continual minor tweaks
(and gimmicky additions) to their products every year. All that does is
piss off the customer who just bought something and cause most people
to not bother buying the next new toy because another one will be
released soon. Apple also needs to simplify their over-complicated
product line-up, ditch the non-repair / non-upgrade designs, and get
rid of the silly MacOS codenames. Time to bring back Steve Jobs again!
;-)
Can't wait.
On 2025-02-14 05:22:08 +0000, Jay said:
Can't wait.
You may as well wait because the slightly better M6 will be released
next year. :-\
If you just bought a new M4 iPad or Mac, then you've been scammed. The
new M5 chips are coming this year ... and no doubt the M6 will arrive
next year.
Forget the M4, the M5 iPad Pro and Macs
are on track for release this year
<https://www.macworld.com/article/2599225/rumor-claims-an-m5-ipad-pro-and-macs
-are-on-track-for-this-year.html>
Apple really needs to slow down and stop making continual minor tweaks
(and gimmicky additions) to their products every year. All that does is
piss off the customer who just bought something and cause most people
to not bother buying the next new toy because another one will be
released soon. Apple also needs to simplify their over-complicated
product line-up, ditch the non-repair / non-upgrade designs, and get
rid of the silly MacOS codenames. Time to bring back Steve Jobs again!
;-)
On Feb 5, 2025, Your Name wrote
(in article <vo0hjg$2hn1r$1@dont-email.me>):
If you just bought a new M4 iPad or Mac, then you've been scammed. The
new M5 chips are coming this year ... and no doubt the M6 will arrive
next year.
Hmm. I bought an M2 iPad Air. It was fast enough, and, more importantly, cheap enough, for my purposes. In a few years I’ll probably replace it with whatever's current then.
This is being typed on a 2014 Mac mini. It still works. I will probably be replacing it with a M4 unit later this year, and will keep that one for a decade, too.
I have no particular desire for new shiny, as long as current systems work.
A lot of people complain about "planned obsolesence", but the reality
is it is more a case of "enforced obsolesence" because you can't get
the parts to repair things (and in Apple's case, a fad of devices that
can't even be repaired / upgraded) or more usually people's own simple greediness to own the latest toy on the block even though their current device / car / etc. is perfectly fine.
On Feb 5, 2025, Your Name wrote
(in article <vo0hjg$2hn1r$1@dont-email.me>):
If you just bought a new M4 iPad or Mac, then you've been scammed.
The new M5 chips are coming this year ... and no doubt the M6 will
arrive next year.
Hmm. I bought an M2 iPad Air. It was fast enough, and, more
importantly, cheap enough, for my purposes. In a few years I’ll
probably replace it with whatever’s current then.
This is being typed on a 2014 Mac mini. It still works. I will
probably be replacing it with a M4 unit later this year, and will keep
that one for a decade, too.
I have no particular desire for new shiny, as long as current systems
work.
On 2025-02-22, WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On Feb 5, 2025, Your Name wrote
(in article <vo0hjg$2hn1r$1@dont-email.me>):
If you just bought a new M4 iPad or Mac, then you've been scammed.
The new M5 chips are coming this year ... and no doubt the M6 will
arrive next year.
Hmm. I bought an M2 iPad Air. It was fast enough, and, more
importantly, cheap enough, for my purposes. In a few years I’ll
probably replace it with whatever’s current then.
This is being typed on a 2014 Mac mini. It still works. I will
probably be replacing it with a M4 unit later this year, and will keep
that one for a decade, too.
I have no particular desire for new shiny, as long as current systems
work.
That's pretty common amongst Mac users. But claiming people who bought a
M4 Mac was "scammed" just because Apple dared to update the Mac line
with faster processors is downright loony. 🤔
People who bought last year's Macs weren't scammed. Apple just
refreshed some Macs, as usual.
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2025-02-22, WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On Feb 5, 2025, Your Name wrote
(in article <vo0hjg$2hn1r$1@dont-email.me>):
If you just bought a new M4 iPad or Mac, then you've been scammed.
The new M5 chips are coming this year ... and no doubt the M6 will
arrive next year.
Hmm. I bought an M2 iPad Air. It was fast enough, and, more
importantly, cheap enough, for my purposes. In a few years I’ll
probably replace it with whatever’s current then.
This is being typed on a 2014 Mac mini. It still works. I will
probably be replacing it with a M4 unit later this year, and will keep
that one for a decade, too.
I have no particular desire for new shiny, as long as current systems
work.
That's pretty common amongst Mac users. But claiming people who bought a
M4 Mac was "scammed" just because Apple dared to update the Mac line
with faster processors is downright loony. 🤔
People who bought last year's Macs weren't scammed. Apple just
refreshed some Macs, as usual.
Wasn’t the big complaint that Apple updated their hardware too slowly?
Well, that’s not the case anymore. The refresh cycle is just a little too fast now,
but if the performance gain is worth it I say “Go for it!”
On 2025-03-19 15:50:32 +0000, Anonymous said:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2025-02-22, WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On Feb 5, 2025, Your Name wrote
(in article <vo0hjg$2hn1r$1@dont-email.me>):
If you just bought a new M4 iPad or Mac, then you've been scammed.
The new M5 chips are coming this year ... and no doubt the M6 will
arrive next year.
Hmm. I bought an M2 iPad Air. It was fast enough, and, more
importantly, cheap enough, for my purposes. In a few years I’ll
probably replace it with whatever’s current then.
This is being typed on a 2014 Mac mini. It still works. I will
probably be replacing it with a M4 unit later this year, and will keep >>> that one for a decade, too.
I have no particular desire for new shiny, as long as current systems
work.
That's pretty common amongst Mac users. But claiming people who bought a >> M4 Mac was "scammed" just because Apple dared to update the Mac line
with faster processors is downright loony. ?
People who bought last year's Macs weren't scammed. Apple just
refreshed some Macs, as usual.
Wasn’t the big complaint that Apple updated their hardware too slowly?
Only by fools blinded by the silly "megahertz myth" asnd the geek
brigade who always want a new shiny toy to play with.
Well, that’s not the case anymore. The refresh cycle is just a little too fast now,
It isn't just Apple either. Samsung, etc. all update their devices
every year (at least) with little more than minor tweaks and pointless gimmickry.
You then have most of the software developers that enforce their apps
to only run on the latest and greatest hardware and operating systems.
Combined, that induces a constant enforced upgrade cycle (at least for
those with more money than sense) and simply ends up with huge piles of perfectly good devices being thrown out as e-waste every year.
but if the performance gain is worth it I say “Go for it!”
Most users' needs are extremely simple and peak performance for them
was reached years ago - there is a limit as to how fast you can type in
MS Word or move the mouse cursor. They have no real need for today's massively fast devices, other than to keep it running at a decent speed despite all the unnecessary gimmicks companies keep adding to them.
In article <vrfcti$1na48$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
On 2025-03-19 15:50:32 +0000, Anonymous said:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2025-02-22, WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On Feb 5, 2025, Your Name wrote
(in article <vo0hjg$2hn1r$1@dont-email.me>):
If you just bought a new M4 iPad or Mac, then you've been scammed. >>>>>> The new M5 chips are coming this year ... and no doubt the M6 will >>>>>> arrive next year.
Hmm. I bought an M2 iPad Air. It was fast enough, and, more
importantly, cheap enough, for my purposes. In a few years I’ll
probably replace it with whatever’s current then.
This is being typed on a 2014 Mac mini. It still works. I will
probably be replacing it with a M4 unit later this year, and will keep >>>>> that one for a decade, too.
I have no particular desire for new shiny, as long as current systems >>>>> work.
That's pretty common amongst Mac users. But claiming people who bought a >>>> M4 Mac was "scammed" just because Apple dared to update the Mac line
with faster processors is downright loony. ?
People who bought last year's Macs weren't scammed. Apple just
refreshed some Macs, as usual.
Wasn’t the big complaint that Apple updated their hardware too slowly?
Only by fools blinded by the silly "megahertz myth" asnd the geek
brigade who always want a new shiny toy to play with.
Well, that’s not the case anymore. The refresh cycle is just a little too >>> fast now,
It isn't just Apple either. Samsung, etc. all update their devices
every year (at least) with little more than minor tweaks and pointless
gimmickry.
You then have most of the software developers that enforce their apps
to only run on the latest and greatest hardware and operating systems.
Combined, that induces a constant enforced upgrade cycle (at least for
those with more money than sense) and simply ends up with huge piles of
perfectly good devices being thrown out as e-waste every year.
but if the performance gain is worth it I say “Go for it!”
Most users' needs are extremely simple and peak performance for them
was reached years ago - there is a limit as to how fast you can type in
MS Word or move the mouse cursor. They have no real need for today's
massively fast devices, other than to keep it running at a decent speed
despite all the unnecessary gimmicks companies keep adding to them.
None of that even matters. If you need a new phone, you get a new
phone. End of discussion.
Most people don't need all of the features/capabilities of new cars
either. But if you need a new car, you get a new car. End of
discussion.
The people who get a new phone every year are the same people who get a
new car every year. People with lots of money. Nothing wrong with
that. That's the whole point of having lots of money.
I have an iPhone 12 Pro Max. It still works fine. When I need a new
one it will be the newest biggest bestest iPhone. Because I am not interested in the cheapest iPhone.
Because I have SOME money. Not LOTS of money.
And there is no "e-waste". I sell the old one on eBay. Because there
are LOTS of people who want an iPhone but can't afford a new one. I
know that because I used to be one. And since pristine used iPhones
(mine are always in a case so no scratches/dents at all) get top
dollars, it helps to offset the price of the new one.
Win-win.
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