• DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved

    From Tamborino@tamborinonospam@gomail.com.ua to comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system on Mon Apr 1 00:55:13 2024
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    This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and Apple's
    update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted.

    Yet, for conversations between Google Messages users, end-to-end encryption
    is now enabled on your Android phone by default. https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/03/30/new-apple-iphone-16-pro-max-and-ios-18-leak-googles-imessage-warning/

    So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between
    Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and Android users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level of security.

    This is critical because it's the issue the DOJ highlighted in its lawsuit: "Apple is willing to make the iPhone less secure and less private... Text messages sent from iPhones to Android phones are unencrypted as a result of Apple's conduct. If Apple wanted to, Apple could allow iPhone users to send encrypted messages to Android users while still using iMessage on their
    iPhone, which would instantly improve the privacy and security of iPhone
    and other smartphone users."
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 1 18:56:22 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-04-01 00:55:13 +0000, Tamborino said:

    This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and Apple's update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted.

    Yet, for conversations between Google Messages users, end-to-end encryption is now enabled on your Android phone by default. https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/03/30/new-apple-iphone-16-pro-max-and-ios-18-leak-googles-imessage-warning/


    So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between
    Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and Android users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level of security.

    This is critical because it's the issue the DOJ highlighted in its lawsuit: "Apple is willing to make the iPhone less secure and less private... Text messages sent from iPhones to Android phones are unencrypted as a result of Apple's conduct. If Apple wanted to, Apple could allow iPhone users to send encrypted messages to Android users while still using iMessage on their iPhone, which would instantly improve the privacy and security of iPhone
    and other smartphone users."

    Yet more proof that the US DOJ has no clue what they're talking about. :-\

    A. Apple doesn't even use RCS ... yet! It is rumoured to be coming in
    later this year ("in the fall" if you believe a Google post)

    B. Apple messages are end-to-end encrypted, at least between Apple
    devices using Apple's messaging app (for other apps it is up to
    their developers, not Apple):

    "Your iMessage and FaceTime conversations are encrypted end-to-end,
    so they can't be read while they're sent between devices."




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  • From Charlie@charlie@nospam.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 1 00:38:07 2024
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    On this Mon, 1 Apr 2024 18:56:22 +1300, Your Name wrote:

    Yet more proof that the US DOJ has no clue what they're talking about. :-\

    A. Apple doesn't even use RCS ... yet! It is rumoured to be coming in
    later this year ("in the fall" if you believe a Google post)

    B. Apple messages are end-to-end encrypted, at least between Apple
    devices using Apple's messaging app (for other apps it is up to
    their developers, not Apple):

    "Your iMessage and FaceTime conversations are encrypted end-to-end,
    so they can't be read while they're sent between devices."

    I think the DOJ's 88-page point of view is that Apple knows very well how trivially easy it would be for Apple to give iOS & Android users privacy
    when its own users are communicating between iOS & Android users via RCS.

    The DOJ's point of view seems to be Apple expressly wants NOBODY to have privacy (not even Apple users!) when they communicate between platforms.

    Apple doesn't care that even its own users won't have that privacy.
    All Apple cares about is screwing its own customers to make more money.
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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 1 12:40:28 2024
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    Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:
    On 2024-04-01 00:55:13 +0000, Tamborino said:

    This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and Apple's update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted.

    Yet, for conversations between Google Messages users, end-to-end encryption is now enabled on your Android phone by default. https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/03/30/new-apple-iphone-16-pro-max-and-ios-18-leak-googles-imessage-warning/


    So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and Android users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level of security.

    This is critical because it's the issue the DOJ highlighted in its lawsuit: "Apple is willing to make the iPhone less secure and less private... Text messages sent from iPhones to Android phones are unencrypted as a result of Apple's conduct. If Apple wanted to, Apple could allow iPhone users to send encrypted messages to Android users while still using iMessage on their iPhone, which would instantly improve the privacy and security of iPhone and other smartphone users."

    Yet more proof that the US DOJ has no clue what they're talking about. :-\

    A. Apple doesn't even use RCS ... yet! It is rumoured to be coming in
    later this year ("in the fall" if you believe a Google post)

    Exactly which part of "will" in "will not" didn't you understand?

    B. Apple messages are end-to-end encrypted, at least between Apple
    devices using Apple's messaging app (for other apps it is up to
    their developers, not Apple):

    "Your iMessage and FaceTime conversations are encrypted end-to-end,
    so they can't be read while they're sent between devices."

    Exactly which part of "unlike in "unlike iMessaging" didn't you
    understand?
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  • From badgolferman@REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 1 14:57:08 2024
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    Your Name wrote:

    On 2024-04-01 00:55:13 +0000, Tamborino said:

    This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and
    Apple's update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted.

    Yet, for conversations between Google Messages users, end-to-end
    encryption is now enabled on your Android phone by default. >>https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/03/30/new-apple-iphone- >>16-pro-max-and-ios-18-leak-googles-imessage-warning/ So unlike >>iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between Android
    users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and Android
    users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level of
    security.

    This is critical because it's the issue the DOJ highlighted in its
    lawsuit: "Apple is willing to make the iPhone less secure and less >>private... Text messages sent from iPhones to Android phones are >>unencrypted as a result of Apple's conduct. If Apple wanted to,
    Apple could allow iPhone users to send encrypted messages to
    Android users while still using iMessage on their iPhone, which
    would instantly improve the privacy and security of iPhone and
    other smartphone users."

    Yet more proof that the US DOJ has no clue what they're talking
    about. :-\

    A. Apple doesn't even use RCS ... yet! It is rumoured to be coming in
    later this year ("in the fall" if you believe a Google post)

    B. Apple messages are end-to-end encrypted, at least between Apple
    devices using Apple's messaging app (for other apps it is up to
    their developers, not Apple):

    "Your iMessage and FaceTime conversations are encrypted end-to-end,
    so they can't be read while they're sent between devices."

    This is the relevant part of the article. There will not be encryption
    between Android and iOS users. The DOJ says Apple can make it happen
    but are unwilling to. If this is true then it looks like Apple is
    being the petulant child stamping their feet and saying "no, no, no..."


    "So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between
    Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and
    Android users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level
    of security."

    "If Apple wanted to, Apple could allow iPhone users to send encrypted
    messages to Android users while still using iMessage on their iPhone..."
    --
    "Progress might have been all right once, but it has gone on too long."
    ~ Ogden Nash
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  • From sms@scharf.steven@geemail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 1 10:59:56 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 4/1/2024 7:57 AM, badgolferman wrote:

    <snip>

    "If Apple wanted to, Apple could allow iPhone users to send encrypted messages to Android users while still using iMessage on their iPhone..."

    If they allowed encryption between iPhone users and Android users it
    would eliminate a key advantage of an organization being 100% iPhone. My wife's company is 100% iPhone, for multiple reasons (they could actually
    use Android since they use Cortext for secure messaging since it's HIPAA compliant, while iMessage is not HIPAA compliant) mainly for the remote management (MDM) capability, and the inability for employees to install
    any apps. So she carries two phones, her personal Android and her
    corporate iPhone.
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  • From Frankie@frankie@nospam.usa to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 1 14:45:14 2024
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    On 1/4/2024, sms wrote:

    "If Apple wanted to, Apple could allow iPhone users to send encrypted
    messages to Android users while still using iMessage on their iPhone..."

    If they allowed encryption between iPhone users and Android users it
    would eliminate a key advantage of an organization being 100% iPhone.

    Apple execs are on record from the Epic deposition for never wanting the
    iPhone messaging to interface well with Android, which is part of the DOJ
    case since it's a matter of public record that Apple can't possibly deny.

    My wife's company is 100% iPhone, for multiple reasons

    I feel sorry for anyone stuck with having to create an account for Apple
    just to use a phone that shouldn't need to create that tracking account.

    (they could actually
    use Android since they use Cortext for secure messaging since it's HIPAA compliant, while iMessage is not HIPAA compliant) mainly for the remote management (MDM) capability,

    Does this HIPAA compliant "Cortext" app functionality run on iOS?

    and the inability for employees to install any apps.

    Most people who only know iPhones have no idea how limited they are, which
    is kind of like kids up until about fifth grade still believe in the Easter Bunny but after about fifth grade, even kids begin to see the limitations.

    So she carries two phones, her personal Android and her
    corporate iPhone.

    My wife is also forced to use an iPhone but she can't stand it and cheats
    as much as she can by using the Android phone whenever she needs to get something done.
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Tue Apr 2 11:08:28 2024
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    On 2024-04-01 14:57:08 +0000, badgolferman said:
    Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-04-01 00:55:13 +0000, Tamborino said:

    This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and
    Apple's update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted.

    Yet, for conversations between Google Messages users, end-to-end
    encryption is now enabled on your Android phone by default.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/03/30/new-apple-iphone-
    16-pro-max-and-ios-18-leak-googles-imessage-warning/ So unlike
    iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between Android
    users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and Android
    users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level of
    security.

    This is critical because it's the issue the DOJ highlighted in its
    lawsuit: "Apple is willing to make the iPhone less secure and less
    private... Text messages sent from iPhones to Android phones are
    unencrypted as a result of Apple's conduct. If Apple wanted to,
    Apple could allow iPhone users to send encrypted messages to
    Android users while still using iMessage on their iPhone, which
    would instantly improve the privacy and security of iPhone and
    other smartphone users."

    Yet more proof that the US DOJ has no clue what they're talking
    about. :-\

    A. Apple doesn't even use RCS ... yet! It is rumoured to be coming in
    later this year ("in the fall" if you believe a Google post)

    B. Apple messages are end-to-end encrypted, at least between Apple
    devices using Apple's messaging app (for other apps it is up to
    their developers, not Apple):

    "Your iMessage and FaceTime conversations are encrypted end-to-end,
    so they can't be read while they're sent between devices."

    This is the relevant part of the article. There will not be encryption between Android and iOS users. The DOJ says Apple can make it happen
    but are unwilling to.

    More know-nothing bollocks from the US DOJ. Just read note A. above,
    Apple is already planning to support RCS, in some form.



    If this is true then it looks like Apple is being the petulant child stamping their feet and saying "no, no, no..."

    "So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and
    Android users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level
    of security."

    Wrong ...

    "Apple stated it will not use any type of proprietary
    end-to-end encryption – presumably referring to Google's
    approach — but did say it would work to make end-to-end
    encryption part of the RCS standard."

    Apple wants RCS to have a proper standard for encryption and not rely
    on Google's version, which for any one who knows Google (or Microsoft's attempts to cripple HTML) knows is obviously a good thing. Just in
    today's news is that Google's Chrome browser still collects data for
    Google even when in the supposedly private 'Incognito' mode - Google
    simply cannot be trusted, which is yet another good reason to avoid
    Android OS. <https://www.wired.com/story/google-chrome-incognito-mode-data-deletion-settlement/>




    "If Apple wanted to, Apple could allow iPhone users to send encrypted messages to Android users while still using iMessage on their iPhone..."

    As above.


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  • From Wolf Greenblatt@wolf@greenblatt.net to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 1 19:01:16 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 11:08:28 +1300, Your Name wrote:

    This is the relevant part of the article. There will not be encryption
    between Android and iOS users. The DOJ says Apple can make it happen
    but are unwilling to.

    More know-nothing bollocks from the US DOJ. Just read note A. above,
    Apple is already planning to support RCS, in some form.

    Apple has no plans to fully support RCS end-to-end encryption.
    That's what the DOJ suit is partially about.

    If this is true then it looks like Apple is being the petulant child
    stamping their feet and saying "no, no, no..."

    "So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between
    Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and
    Android users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level
    of security."

    Wrong ...

    Only the nut cases think Apple actually cares about them or their privacy.

    "Apple stated it will not use any type of proprietary
    end-to-end encryption ¡V presumably referring to Google's
    approach ¡X but did say it would work to make end-to-end
    encryption part of the RCS standard."

    Apple does not want anyone, not even their own customers, to have the
    privacy of RCS end-to-end encryption between Apple and Android users.

    As such, Apple has always been glaringly anti-consumer for the sake of
    profit - always to the detriment of even their own customers' privacy.

    Apple wants RCS to have a proper standard for encryption and not rely
    on Google's version, which for any one who knows Google (or Microsoft's attempts to cripple HTML) knows is obviously a good thing. Just in
    today's news is that Google's Chrome browser still collects data for
    Google even when in the supposedly private 'Incognito' mode - Google
    simply cannot be trusted, which is yet another good reason to avoid
    Android OS. <https://www.wired.com/story/google-chrome-incognito-mode-data-deletion-settlement/>

    "If Apple wanted to, Apple could allow iPhone users to send encrypted
    messages to Android users while still using iMessage on their iPhone..."

    As above.

    It's clear to the DOJ and to anyone who read the Epic deposition where
    Apple had to openly admit the last thing Apple wants is anyone having any privacy when messaging between the two platforms, iOS and Android.

    Apple is so anti privacy that they don't even want their own customers to
    have that end-to-end encryption privacy - which is proved in the DOJ case.
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  • From Alan@nunya@biz.net to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 1 16:39:58 2024
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    On 2024-04-01 4:01 p.m., Wolf Greenblatt wrote:
    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 11:08:28 +1300, Your Name wrote:

    This is the relevant part of the article. There will not be encryption
    between Android and iOS users. The DOJ says Apple can make it happen
    but are unwilling to.

    More know-nothing bollocks from the US DOJ. Just read note A. above,
    Apple is already planning to support RCS, in some form.

    Apple has no plans to fully support RCS end-to-end encryption.
    That's what the DOJ suit is partially about.

    Well that's just false.


    If this is true then it looks like Apple is being the petulant child
    stamping their feet and saying "no, no, no..."

    "So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between
    Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and
    Android users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level
    of security."

    Wrong ...

    Only the nut cases think Apple actually cares about them or their privacy.

    "Apple stated it will not use any type of proprietary
    end-to-end encryption – presumably referring to Google's
    approach — but did say it would work to make end-to-end
    encryption part of the RCS standard."

    Apple does not want anyone, not even their own customers, to have the
    privacy of RCS end-to-end encryption between Apple and Android users.

    You've literally just quoted them saying they would allow it.
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  • From Wolf Greenblatt@wolf@greenblatt.net to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Tue Apr 2 00:05:22 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 16:39:58 -0700, Alan wrote:

    You've literally just quoted them saying they would allow it.

    Read the reference a few thousand time and maybe you'll yet understand.
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system on Tue Apr 2 09:00:19 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-03-31 17:55, Tamborino wrote:
    This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and Apple's update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted.

    Yet, for conversations between Google Messages users, end-to-end encryption is now enabled on your Android phone by default. https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/03/30/new-apple-iphone-16-pro-max-and-ios-18-leak-googles-imessage-warning/

    So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between
    Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and Android users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level of security.

    This is critical because it's the issue the DOJ highlighted in its lawsuit: "Apple is willing to make the iPhone less secure and less private... Text messages sent from iPhones to Android phones are unencrypted as a result of Apple's conduct. If Apple wanted to, Apple could allow iPhone users to send encrypted messages to Android users while still using iMessage on their iPhone, which would instantly improve the privacy and security of iPhone
    and other smartphone users."

    Apple is unwilling to use Google's PROPRIETARY encryption, dimwit.

    Apple has explicitly stated that they'll work with the mobile phone
    group that created RCS to build encryption into it.
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Tue Apr 2 09:01:26 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-04-01 07:57, badgolferman wrote:
    Your Name wrote:

    On 2024-04-01 00:55:13 +0000, Tamborino said:

    This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and
    Apple's update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted.

    Yet, for conversations between Google Messages users, end-to-end
    encryption is now enabled on your Android phone by default.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/03/30/new-apple-iphone-
    16-pro-max-and-ios-18-leak-googles-imessage-warning/ So unlike
    iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between Android
    users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and Android
    users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level of
    security.

    This is critical because it's the issue the DOJ highlighted in its
    lawsuit: "Apple is willing to make the iPhone less secure and less
    private... Text messages sent from iPhones to Android phones are
    unencrypted as a result of Apple's conduct. If Apple wanted to,
    Apple could allow iPhone users to send encrypted messages to
    Android users while still using iMessage on their iPhone, which
    would instantly improve the privacy and security of iPhone and
    other smartphone users."

    Yet more proof that the US DOJ has no clue what they're talking
    about. :-\

    A. Apple doesn't even use RCS ... yet! It is rumoured to be coming in
    later this year ("in the fall" if you believe a Google post)

    B. Apple messages are end-to-end encrypted, at least between Apple
    devices using Apple's messaging app (for other apps it is up to
    their developers, not Apple):

    "Your iMessage and FaceTime conversations are encrypted end-to-end,
    so they can't be read while they're sent between devices."

    This is the relevant part of the article. There will not be encryption between Android and iOS users. The DOJ says Apple can make it happen
    but are unwilling to. If this is true then it looks like Apple is
    being the petulant child stamping their feet and saying "no, no, no..."

    So you can predict the future, can you?



    "So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and
    Android users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level
    of security."

    "If Apple wanted to, Apple could allow iPhone users to send encrypted messages to Android users while still using iMessage on their iPhone..."
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Tue Apr 2 09:02:18 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-04-01 21:05, Wolf Greenblatt wrote:
    On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 16:39:58 -0700, Alan wrote:

    You've literally just quoted them saying they would allow it.

    Read the reference a few thousand time and maybe you'll yet understand.

    Why don't you just explain why you think I don't?
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  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Wed Apr 3 17:54:04 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-04-01 00:55:13 +0000, Tamborino said:

    This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and Apple's
    update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted.

    Yet, for conversations between Google Messages users, end-to-end encryption >> is now enabled on your Android phone by default.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/03/30/new-apple-iphone-16-pro-max-and-ios-18-leak-googles-imessage-warning/


    So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between
    Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and Android
    users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level of security. >>
    This is critical because it's the issue the DOJ highlighted in its lawsuit: >> "Apple is willing to make the iPhone less secure and less private... Text
    messages sent from iPhones to Android phones are unencrypted as a result of >> Apple's conduct. If Apple wanted to, Apple could allow iPhone users to send >> encrypted messages to Android users while still using iMessage on their
    iPhone, which would instantly improve the privacy and security of iPhone
    and other smartphone users."

    Yet more proof that the US DOJ has no clue what they're talking about.  :-\

    A. Apple doesn't even use RCS ... yet! It is rumoured to be coming in
      later this year ("in the fall" if you believe a Google post)

    B. Apple messages are end-to-end encrypted, at least between Apple
      devices using Apple's messaging app (for other apps it is up to
      their developers, not Apple):

      "Your iMessage and FaceTime conversations are encrypted end-to-end,
       so they can't be read while they're sent between devices."


    Doj is picking on Poor apple.

    Apple is just a small, old fashioned country telephone maker. They have
    never deliberately committed crimes or fraud, or screwed their customers.

    Sure, they've made mistakes, but all honest. This is all biden's fault. He hates apple.





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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Thu Apr 4 13:26:29 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-04-03 22:54:04 +0000, Hank Rogers said:
    Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-04-01 00:55:13 +0000, Tamborino said:

    This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and Apple's >>> update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted.

    Yet, for conversations between Google Messages users, end-to-end
    encryption is now enabled on your Android phone by default.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/03/30/new-apple-iphone-16-pro-max-and-ios-18-leak-googles-imessage-warning/


    So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between
    Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and Android >>> users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level of security. >>>
    This is critical because it's the issue the DOJ highlighted in its
    lawsuit: "Apple is willing to make the iPhone less secure and less
    private... Text messages sent from iPhones to Android phones are
    unencrypted as a result of Apple's conduct. If Apple wanted to, Apple
    could allow iPhone users to send encrypted messages to Android users
    while still using iMessage on their iPhone, which would instantly
    improve the privacy and security of iPhone and other smartphone users."

    Yet more proof that the US DOJ has no clue what they're talking about.  :-\ >>
    A. Apple doesn't even use RCS ... yet! It is rumoured to be coming in
      later this year ("in the fall" if you believe a Google post)

    B. Apple messages are end-to-end encrypted, at least between Apple
      devices using Apple's messaging app (for other apps it is up to
      their developers, not Apple):

      "Your iMessage and FaceTime conversations are encrypted end-to-end,
       so they can't be read while they're sent between devices."

    Doj is picking on Poor apple.

    Apple is just a small, old fashioned country telephone maker. They have never deliberately committed crimes or fraud, or screwed their
    customers.

    Sure, they've made mistakes, but all honest. This is all biden's fault.
    He hates apple.

    The glacial pace that government departments work at, it's far more
    likely Trump the Chump's fault and yet another reason for every sane
    American to bin the lunatic at their next election. :-p



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  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Wed Apr 3 19:58:06 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 22:54:04 +0000, Hank Rogers said:
    Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-04-01 00:55:13 +0000, Tamborino said:

    This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and Apple's >>>> update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted.

    Yet, for conversations between Google Messages users, end-to-end
    encryption is now enabled on your Android phone by default.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/03/30/new-apple-iphone-16-pro-max-and-ios-18-leak-googles-imessage-warning/


    So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between
    Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and Android >>>> users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level of
    security.

    This is critical because it's the issue the DOJ highlighted in its
    lawsuit: "Apple is willing to make the iPhone less secure and less
    private... Text messages sent from iPhones to Android phones are
    unencrypted as a result of Apple's conduct. If Apple wanted to, Apple >>>> could allow iPhone users to send encrypted messages to Android users
    while still using iMessage on their iPhone, which would instantly
    improve the privacy and security of iPhone and other smartphone users." >>>
    Yet more proof that the US DOJ has no clue what they're talking about.  :-\ >>>
    A. Apple doesn't even use RCS ... yet! It is rumoured to be coming in
      later this year ("in the fall" if you believe a Google post)

    B. Apple messages are end-to-end encrypted, at least between Apple
      devices using Apple's messaging app (for other apps it is up to
      their developers, not Apple):

      "Your iMessage and FaceTime conversations are encrypted end-to-end,
       so they can't be read while they're sent between devices."

    Doj is picking on Poor apple.

    Apple is just a small, old fashioned country telephone maker. They have
    never deliberately committed crimes or fraud, or screwed their customers.

    Sure, they've made mistakes, but all honest. This is all biden's fault.
    He hates apple.

    The glacial pace that government departments work at, it's far more likely Trump the Chump's fault and yet another reason for every sane American to bin the lunatic at their next election.   :-p


    Poor apple is just being picked on by the law. So is trump. They are much alike and have never done anything wrong. Ever. Neither has ever committed
    a crime or screwed a customer or business partner.

    Both are forced to pay billion dollar fines for shit they didn't do.

    Every true american feels sorry for both apple and trump. And most are
    willing to give them money to help bail them out.


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  • From Java Jive@java@evij.com.invalid to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Thu Apr 4 02:45:02 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote:

    So is trump. They are
    much alike and have never done anything wrong. Ever. Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a customer or business partner.

    That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost two civil cases, wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist - in most
    civilised people's view, that is both committing a crime and screwing
    someone. Further, he faces 91 further criminal charges in 4 separate
    cases, in most of which his guilt seems to be beyond doubt, in that the
    known facts or even his own statements prove his guilt, and potentially
    he only has to be found guilty on *one* of those 91 charges to end up in
    jail. Indeed, if he carries on threatening judges' families the way
    that he now done *twice* already, most likely he will be adjudged to
    have breached the terms of his bail, and go to jail to await trial
    anyway. The only thing actually in doubt is whether the lumbering US
    legal system can complete a case and thereby convict him before the
    election, but the first trial starts this month, so probably they will, despite his barrage of absurd claims of Presidential immunity, which, as
    an appeal judge pointed out, would, if taken literally as claimed,
    enable him to send the Seals to wipe out political opponents.

    Both are forced to pay billion dollar fines for shit they didn't do.

    I'm not going to comment on Apple, but the whole point of the Trump
    fines is that it's shit he *DID* do, as determined by independent juries
    in two courts of law.

    Every true american feels sorry for both apple and trump. And most are willing to give them money to help bail them out.

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, every one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm.
    --

    Fake news kills!

    I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk
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  • From snipeco.2@snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Thu Apr 4 02:51:34 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, every one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm.

    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both candidates
    to be unspeakable, TINEOE.
    --
    ^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

    My pet rock Gordon just is.
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Thu Apr 4 15:19:34 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-04-04 01:45:02 +0000, Java Jive said:
    On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote:

    So is trump. They are much alike and have never done anything wrong.
    Ever. Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a customer or
    business partner.

    That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost two civil
    cases, wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist - in most civilised people's view, that is both committing a crime and screwing someone. Further, he faces 91 further criminal charges in 4 separate
    cases, in most of which his guilt seems to be beyond doubt, in that the known facts or even his own statements prove his guilt, and potentially
    he only has to be found guilty on *one* of those 91 charges to end up
    in jail. Indeed, if he carries on threatening judges' families the way
    that he now done *twice* already, most likely he will be adjudged to
    have breached the terms of his bail, and go to jail to await trial
    anyway. The only thing actually in doubt is whether the lumbering US
    legal system can complete a case and thereby convict him before the election, but the first trial starts this month, so probably they will, despite his barrage of absurd claims of Presidential immunity, which,
    as an appeal judge pointed out, would, if taken literally as claimed,
    enable him to send the Seals to wipe out political opponents.

    Both are forced to pay billion dollar fines for shit they didn't do.

    I'm not going to comment on Apple, but the whole point of the Trump
    fines is that it's shit he *DID* do, as determined by independent
    juries in two courts of law.

    Every true american feels sorry for both apple and trump. And most are
    willing to give them money to help bail them out.

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, every
    one else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm.

    Another difference is that most of New York doesn't want Trump the
    Chump in their city. :-)


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  • From Anonymous@anon@anon.net to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Thu Apr 4 00:49:08 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Java Jive wrote:
    On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote:

    So is trump. They are much alike and have never done anything wrong. Ever.
    Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a customer or business partner.

    That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost two civil cases, wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist - in most civilised people's view, that is both committing a crime and screwing someone.

    Losing a civil case is not the same as a criminal conviction.

    Further, he faces 91 further criminal charges in 4 separate cases,

    All politically-motivated persecutions.

    All that proves is that he should have crossed the Rubicon after the
    massive election theft of 2020 and started having lots of Democrats
    put up against the wall and shot.
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Thu Apr 4 09:10:00 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, every one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm.

    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both candidates
    to be unspeakable, TINEOE.


    Why?
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Thu Apr 4 09:11:02 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-04-03 21:49, Anonymous wrote:
    Java Jive wrote:
    On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote:

    So is trump. They are much alike and have never done anything wrong. Ever.
    Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a customer or business partner.

    That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost two civil cases, wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist  -  in most
    civilised
    people's view, that is both committing a crime and screwing someone.

    Losing a civil case is not the same as a criminal conviction.

    A jury of his peers ruled.


    Further, he faces 91 further criminal charges in 4 separate cases,

    All politically-motivated persecutions.

    Nope. Motivated by his actions.


    All that proves is that he should have crossed the Rubicon after the
    massive election theft of 2020 and started having lots of Democrats
    put up against the wall and shot.

    Listen to yourself.
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  • From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Thu Apr 4 09:44:39 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, every one >>> else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm.

    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both candidates
    to be unspeakable, TINEOE.

    This Is Not End Of Everything? Best I could come up with.

    Why?

    Trump is better than Biden. Period. You vote against the greater evil.
    Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?
    --
    Cheers, Bev
    (On going to war over religion:) "You're basically killing each other
    to see who's got the better imaginary friend." -- Rich Jeni
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Thu Apr 4 15:16:11 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, every
    one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm.

    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both candidates
    to be unspeakable, TINEOE.

    This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with.

    Why?

    Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the greater evil.
     Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?

    Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely
    compromised by Putin.

    What did Biden do that actually hurt you?

    Was it the falling unemployment?

    The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?

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  • From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Thu Apr 4 15:59:40 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 4/4/24 12:16 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, every >>>>> one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm.

    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both candidates
    to be unspeakable, TINEOE.
    WTF does TINEOE stand for?
    This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with.

    Why?

    Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the greater evil. >>  Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?

    Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely
    compromised by Putin.

    What did Biden do that actually hurt you?

    Was it the falling unemployment?

    The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?
    As long as our President was genuinely unpredictable Putin minded his
    own business. Having a loose cannon on your side is frequently a good
    thing. In a pissing contest between our loose cannon and N. Korea's
    loose cannon, guess who backs down.
    --
    Cheers, Bev
    "I read about this syndrome called hypochondria in a
    magazine. I think I've got it." -- DA
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  • From snipeco.2@snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Fri Apr 5 00:10:57 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 4/4/24 12:16 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju,
    **every one else** wants him safely in jail where he can't cause
    any more harm.


    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard
    both candidates to be unspeakable, TINEOE.


    WTF does TINEOE stand for?


    There Is No Every One Else, ~obviously.~ Furrfu, TYOT.


    This Is Not End Of Everything? Best I could come up with.

    [...]
    --
    ^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

    My pet rock Gordon just is.
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Fri Apr 5 01:02:25 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-04-04 18:59, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 12:16 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju,
    every one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm.

    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both candidates
    to be unspeakable, TINEOE.

    WTF does TINEOE stand for?

    This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with.

    Why?

    Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the greater
    evil.   Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?

    Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely
    compromised by Putin.

    What did Biden do that actually hurt you?

    Was it the falling unemployment?

    The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?

    As long as our President was genuinely unpredictable Putin minded his
    own business.  Having a loose cannon on your side is frequently a good thing.  In a pissing contest between our loose cannon and N. Korea's
    loose cannon, guess who backs down.


    I notice how you shifted the comparison to North Korea suddenly.

    And Trump was doing Putin's BIDDING, sunshine.

    Putin meets with Trump.

    Trump requests information on CIA assets around the world.

    CIA assets start dying.

    Do the math.
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  • From Arno Welzel@usenet@arnowelzel.de to comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system on Fri Apr 5 11:42:20 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Tamborino, 2024-04-01 02:55:

    This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and Apple's update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted.

    RCS *is* end-to-end encrypted. But this is not mandatory, so using
    unencrypted connections is possible. But the Google messaging app in
    Android will show you if the recipient has RCS and also if the
    connection is encrypted.


    Yet, for conversations between Google Messages users, end-to-end encryption is now enabled on your Android phone by default. https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/03/30/new-apple-iphone-16-pro-max-and-ios-18-leak-googles-imessage-warning/

    So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between
    Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and Android users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level of security.

    But this is not the fault of RCS.
    --
    Arno Welzel
    https://arnowelzel.de

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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system on Fri Apr 5 14:11:48 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-04-05 05:42, Arno Welzel wrote:
    Tamborino, 2024-04-01 02:55:

    This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and Apple's
    update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted.

    RCS *is* end-to-end encrypted. But this is not mandatory, so using unencrypted connections is possible. But the Google messaging app in
    Android will show you if the recipient has RCS and also if the
    connection is encrypted.


    Incorrect.

    RCS as implemented by Google has end-to-end encryption.

    The RCS standard does not have encryption as a part of it.


    Yet, for conversations between Google Messages users, end-to-end encryption >> is now enabled on your Android phone by default.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/03/30/new-apple-iphone-16-pro-max-and-ios-18-leak-googles-imessage-warning/

    So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between
    Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and Android
    users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level of security.

    But this is not the fault of RCS.

    It is actually.

    Apple is not prepared to adopt Google's encryption, and given that
    Google can't be trust with your privacy (Google Chrome sweeping up
    information while in incognito mode, anyone?), can you blame Apple?
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  • From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Sun Apr 7 08:09:22 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 4/4/24 12:16 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, every >>>>>> one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm.

    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both candidates
    to be unspeakable, TINEOE.

    WTF does TINEOE stand for?

    This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with.

    Why?

    Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the greater evil. >>>  Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?

    Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely
    compromised by Putin.

    What did Biden do that actually hurt you?

    Was it the falling unemployment?

    The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?

    As long as our President was genuinely unpredictable Putin minded his
    own business. Having a loose cannon on your side is frequently a good thing. In a pissing contest between our loose cannon and N. Korea's
    loose cannon, guess who backs down.

    International diplomacy is not a playground pissing contest.

    Trump is inept and a laughing stock around the world. He brought america
    down to his gutter standard.

    His only interest is himself. The first time he ran was to make money - and
    he did hundreds of millions (including from your taxes) - and this time
    it's to keep himself out of jail. He doesn't care about you or anyone else
    in the US.
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  • From Anonymous@anon@anon.net to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Tue Apr 9 23:14:35 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, every one >>>>> else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm.

    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both candidates
    to be unspeakable, TINEOE.

    This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with.

    Why?

    Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the greater evil. >>   Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?

    Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely compromised by Putin.

    What did Biden do that actually hurt you?

    Was it the falling unemployment?

    The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?


    United States GDP is fake and gay.
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Wed Apr 10 10:47:48 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-04-09 23:14, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju,
    every one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm.

    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both candidates
    to be unspeakable, TINEOE.

    This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with.

    Why?

    Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the greater
    evil.   Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?

    Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely
    compromised by Putin.

    What did Biden do that actually hurt you?

    Was it the falling unemployment?

    The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?


    United States GDP is fake and gay.

    Yes.

    Every fact presented with which you disagree is fake.
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Anonymous@anon@anon.net to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Wed Apr 10 23:28:25 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-09 23:14, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, every one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm. >>>>>>
    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both candidates >>>>>> to be unspeakable, TINEOE.

    This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with.

    Why?

    Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the greater evil.
      Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?

    Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely compromised by
    Putin.

    What did Biden do that actually hurt you?

    Was it the falling unemployment?

    The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?


    United States GDP is fake and gay.

    Yes.

    Every fact presented with which you disagree is fake.

    Why is Russia able to produce enough missiles and shells, and the United
    States can't? That's a tell right there.
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Wed Apr 10 23:47:11 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-04-10 23:28, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-09 23:14, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, >>>>>>>> every one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm. >>>>>>>
    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both candidates >>>>>>> to be unspeakable, TINEOE.

    This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with.

    Why?

    Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the greater >>>>> evil.   Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?

    Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely
    compromised by Putin.

    What did Biden do that actually hurt you?

    Was it the falling unemployment?

    The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?


    United States GDP is fake and gay.

    Yes.

    Every fact presented with which you disagree is fake.

    Why is Russia able to produce enough missiles and shells, and the United States can't? That's a tell right there.

    And where do you get these supposed "facts"?

    Where do you get that the US can't produce enough missiles OR shells?
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Anonymous@anon@anon.net to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Thu Apr 11 22:55:34 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-10 23:28, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-09 23:14, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, every one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm. >>>>>>>>
    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both candidates >>>>>>>> to be unspeakable, TINEOE.

    This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with.

    Why?

    Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the greater evil.
      Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?

    Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely compromised
    by Putin.

    What did Biden do that actually hurt you?

    Was it the falling unemployment?

    The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?


    United States GDP is fake and gay.

    Yes.

    Every fact presented with which you disagree is fake.

    Why is Russia able to produce enough missiles and shells, and the United
    States can't? That's a tell right there.

    And where do you get these supposed "facts"?

    Where do you get that the US can't produce enough missiles OR shells?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/19/artillery-ammunition-ukraine-pentagon/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/03/08/us-weapons-manufacturing-ukraine/

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/18/politics/ukraine-critical-ammo-shortage-us-nato-grapple/index.html
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Thu Apr 11 20:17:35 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-04-11 19:55, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-10 23:28, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-09 23:14, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, >>>>>>>>>> every one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm. >>>>>>>>>
    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both
    candidates
    to be unspeakable, TINEOE.

    This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with.

    Why?

    Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the
    greater evil.   Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in? >>>>>>
    Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely
    compromised by Putin.

    What did Biden do that actually hurt you?

    Was it the falling unemployment?

    The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?


    United States GDP is fake and gay.

    Yes.

    Every fact presented with which you disagree is fake.

    Why is Russia able to produce enough missiles and shells, and the United >>> States can't? That's a tell right there.

    And where do you get these supposed "facts"?

    Where do you get that the US can't produce enough missiles OR shells?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/19/artillery-ammunition-ukraine-pentagon/

    Out of date.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/03/08/us-weapons-manufacturing-ukraine/

    Out of date.


    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/18/politics/ukraine-critical-ammo-shortage-us-nato-grapple/index.html

    Out of date.

    But moreover, this in no way supports the idea that the US GDP figures
    are fake.

    All it shows is that the US needs to ramp up its production...

    ...which it is doing:

    <https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/landwarfareintl/us-army-is-close-to-producing-80000-155mm-shells-per-month/>

    <https://www.army.mil/article/273152/us_army_and_industry_partners_mobilize_to_boost_us_artillery_production>

    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Thu Apr 11 20:36:50 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-04-11 19:55, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-10 23:28, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-09 23:14, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, >>>>>>>>>> every one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm. >>>>>>>>>
    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both
    candidates
    to be unspeakable, TINEOE.

    This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with.

    Why?

    Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the
    greater evil.   Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in? >>>>>>
    Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely
    compromised by Putin.

    What did Biden do that actually hurt you?

    Was it the falling unemployment?

    The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?


    United States GDP is fake and gay.

    Yes.

    Every fact presented with which you disagree is fake.

    Why is Russia able to produce enough missiles and shells, and the United >>> States can't? That's a tell right there.

    And where do you get these supposed "facts"?

    Where do you get that the US can't produce enough missiles OR shells?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/19/artillery-ammunition-ukraine-pentagon/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/03/08/us-weapons-manufacturing-ukraine/

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/18/politics/ukraine-critical-ammo-shortage-us-nato-grapple/index.html

    And I forgot to ask:

    Where do you get your supposed "facts" about how many missiles and
    shells Russia can produce?
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Arno Welzel@usenet@arnowelzel.de to comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system on Fri Apr 12 18:26:02 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Alan, 2024-04-05 20:11:

    On 2024-04-05 05:42, Arno Welzel wrote:
    Tamborino, 2024-04-01 02:55:

    This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and Apple's >>> update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted.

    RCS *is* end-to-end encrypted. But this is not mandatory, so using
    unencrypted connections is possible. But the Google messaging app in
    Android will show you if the recipient has RCS and also if the
    connection is encrypted.


    Incorrect.

    RCS as implemented by Google has end-to-end encryption.

    The RCS standard does not have encryption as a part of it.

    Yes, you're right. I stand corrected.

    [...]
    Apple is not prepared to adopt Google's encryption, and given that
    Google can't be trust with your privacy (Google Chrome sweeping up information while in incognito mode, anyone?), can you blame Apple?

    What is the difference? Messages get send anyway, just not encrypted
    during transmission. But where is the security issue here?

    It's more likely that Apple just does not want to implement stuff which
    is not an official standard.
    --
    Arno Welzel
    https://arnowelzel.de

    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Anonymous@anon@anon.net to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Sat Apr 13 02:05:18 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-04-12, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-04-11 19:55, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-10 23:28, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-09 23:14, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, >>>>>>>>>>>> every one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm. >>>>>>>>>>>
    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both >>>>>>>>>>> candidates
    to be unspeakable, TINEOE.

    This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with.

    Why?

    Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the >>>>>>>>> greater evil.   Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?

    Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely
    compromised by Putin.

    What did Biden do that actually hurt you?

    Was it the falling unemployment?

    The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?


    United States GDP is fake and gay.

    Yes.

    Every fact presented with which you disagree is fake.

    Why is Russia able to produce enough missiles and shells, and the United >>>>> States can't? That's a tell right there.

    And where do you get these supposed "facts"?

    Where do you get that the US can't produce enough missiles OR shells?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/19/artillery-ammunition-ukraine-pentagon/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/03/08/us-weapons-manufacturing-ukraine/

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/18/politics/ukraine-critical-ammo-shortage-us-nato-grapple/index.html

    And I forgot to ask:

    Where do you get your supposed "facts" about how many missiles and
    shells Russia can produce?

    Straight from Mother Russia, of course.


    The approximate number of cruise missiles Russia has expended in the
    Ukraine is known from observations.
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Anonymous@anon@anon.net to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Sat Apr 13 02:27:26 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-11 19:55, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-10 23:28, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-09 23:14, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, every one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm. >>>>>>>>>>
    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both candidates >>>>>>>>>> to be unspeakable, TINEOE.

    This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with.

    Why?

    Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the greater evil.
      Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?

    Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely compromised
    by Putin.

    What did Biden do that actually hurt you?

    Was it the falling unemployment?

    The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?


    United States GDP is fake and gay.

    Yes.

    Every fact presented with which you disagree is fake.

    Why is Russia able to produce enough missiles and shells, and the United >>>> States can't? That's a tell right there.

    And where do you get these supposed "facts"?

    Where do you get that the US can't produce enough missiles OR shells?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/19/artillery-ammunition-ukraine-pentagon/

    Out of date.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/03/08/us-weapons-manufacturing-ukraine/

    Out of date.


    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/18/politics/ukraine-critical-ammo-shortage-us-nato-grapple/index.html

    Out of date.

    But moreover, this in no way supports the idea that the US GDP figures are fake.

    All it shows is that the US needs to ramp up its production...

    Which will take years, if at all.

    ...which it is doing:

    <https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/landwarfareintl/us-army-is-close-to-producing-80000-155mm-shells-per-month/>

    <https://www.army.mil/article/273152/us_army_and_industry_partners_mobilize_to_boost_us_artillery_production>


    Which is not enough:

    https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/10/politics/russia-artillery-shell-production-us-europe-ukraine/index.html

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-its-production-artillery-shells-has-soared-by-nearly-150-year-2024-03-21/
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Sat Apr 13 08:53:01 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-04-12 23:27, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-11 19:55, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-10 23:28, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-09 23:14, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange >>>>>>>>>>>> Juju, every one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more >>>>>>>>>>>> harm.

    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both >>>>>>>>>>> candidates
    to be unspeakable, TINEOE.

    This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with.

    Why?

    Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the >>>>>>>>> greater evil.   Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he >>>>>>>>> was in?

    Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely >>>>>>>> compromised by Putin.

    What did Biden do that actually hurt you?

    Was it the falling unemployment?

    The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?


    United States GDP is fake and gay.

    Yes.

    Every fact presented with which you disagree is fake.

    Why is Russia able to produce enough missiles and shells, and the
    United
    States can't? That's a tell right there.

    And where do you get these supposed "facts"?

    Where do you get that the US can't produce enough missiles OR shells?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/19/artillery-ammunition-ukraine-pentagon/

    Out of date.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/03/08/us-weapons-manufacturing-ukraine/

    Out of date.


    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/18/politics/ukraine-critical-ammo-shortage-us-nato-grapple/index.html

    Out of date.

    But moreover, this in no way supports the idea that the US GDP figures
    are fake.

    All it shows is that the US needs to ramp up its production...

    Which will take years, if at all.

    Which is already happening.


    ...which it is doing:

    <https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/landwarfareintl/us-army-is-close-to-producing-80000-155mm-shells-per-month/>

    <https://www.army.mil/article/273152/us_army_and_industry_partners_mobilize_to_boost_us_artillery_production>


    Which is not enough:

    https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/10/politics/russia-artillery-shell-production-us-europe-ukraine/index.html

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-its-production-artillery-shells-has-soared-by-nearly-150-year-2024-03-21/

    And you believe what Russia says?
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Sat Apr 13 08:53:31 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-04-12 23:05, Anonymous wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-04-12, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-04-11 19:55, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-10 23:28, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-09 23:14, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, >>>>>>>>>>>>> every one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more >>>>>>>>>>>>> harm.

    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both >>>>>>>>>>>> candidates
    to be unspeakable, TINEOE.

    This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with. >>>>>>>>>>
    Why?

    Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the >>>>>>>>>> greater evil.   Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he >>>>>>>>>> was in?

    Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely >>>>>>>>> compromised by Putin.

    What did Biden do that actually hurt you?

    Was it the falling unemployment?

    The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?


    United States GDP is fake and gay.

    Yes.

    Every fact presented with which you disagree is fake.

    Why is Russia able to produce enough missiles and shells, and the >>>>>> United
    States can't? That's a tell right there.

    And where do you get these supposed "facts"?

    Where do you get that the US can't produce enough missiles OR shells? >>>>
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/19/artillery-ammunition-ukraine-pentagon/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/03/08/us-weapons-manufacturing-ukraine/

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/18/politics/ukraine-critical-ammo-shortage-us-nato-grapple/index.html

    And I forgot to ask:

    Where do you get your supposed "facts" about how many missiles and
    shells Russia can produce?

    Straight from Mother Russia, of course.


    The approximate number of cruise missiles Russia has expended in the
    Ukraine is known from observations.

    But not the number that they've manufactured, doofus.
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system on Sat Apr 13 18:44:29 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 01.04.2024 02:55, Tamborino wrote:
    This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and Apple's update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted.

    Arlen again.Troll.

    Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!newsfeed.bofh.team!paganini.bofh.team!not-for-mail
    From: Tamborino <tamborinonospam@gomail.com.ua>
    Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than
    Android when RCS messaging is involved
    Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 00:55:13 -0000 (UTC)
    Organization: To protect and to server
    Message-ID: <uud0lh$13jd4$1@paganini.bofh.team>
    Reply-To: Tamborino <tamborininospam@gomail.com.ua>
    Injection-Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 00:55:13 -0000 (UTC)
    Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="1166756"; posting-host="Yio9ymC2jq+OMXw7E8c8Ww.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A";
    X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3
    --
    "Ave Caesar! Morituri te salutant!"

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  • From Anonymous@anon@anon.net to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Sun Apr 14 01:03:09 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-12 23:05, Anonymous wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-04-12, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-04-11 19:55, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-10 23:28, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-09 23:14, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> every one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm.

    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both >>>>>>>>>>>>> candidates
    to be unspeakable, TINEOE.

    This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Why?

    Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the >>>>>>>>>>> greater evil.   Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?

    Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely >>>>>>>>>> compromised by Putin.

    What did Biden do that actually hurt you?

    Was it the falling unemployment?

    The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?


    United States GDP is fake and gay.

    Yes.

    Every fact presented with which you disagree is fake.

    Why is Russia able to produce enough missiles and shells, and the United
    States can't? That's a tell right there.

    And where do you get these supposed "facts"?

    Where do you get that the US can't produce enough missiles OR shells? >>>>>
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/19/artillery-ammunition-ukraine-pentagon/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/03/08/us-weapons-manufacturing-ukraine/

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/18/politics/ukraine-critical-ammo-shortage-us-nato-grapple/index.html

    And I forgot to ask:

    Where do you get your supposed "facts" about how many missiles and
    shells Russia can produce?

    Straight from Mother Russia, of course.


    The approximate number of cruise missiles Russia has expended in the
    Ukraine is known from observations.

    But not the number that they've manufactured, doofus.

    The United States produces some 150 Tomahawk cruise missiles a year.
    Russia has expended somewhere around 5,000 similar missiles as of a
    year ago. Russia hasn't run out.
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Sat Apr 13 23:34:09 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-04-13 22:03, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-12 23:05, Anonymous wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-04-12, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-04-11 19:55, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-10 23:28, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-09 23:14, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juju,
    every one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more harm.

    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both >>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidates
    to be unspeakable, TINEOE.

    This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Why?

    Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the >>>>>>>>>>>> greater evil.   Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he >>>>>>>>>>>> was in?

    Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely >>>>>>>>>>> compromised by Putin.

    What did Biden do that actually hurt you?

    Was it the falling unemployment?

    The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?


    United States GDP is fake and gay.

    Yes.

    Every fact presented with which you disagree is fake.

    Why is Russia able to produce enough missiles and shells, and >>>>>>>> the United
    States can't? That's a tell right there.

    And where do you get these supposed "facts"?

    Where do you get that the US can't produce enough missiles OR
    shells?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/19/artillery-ammunition-ukraine-pentagon/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/03/08/us-weapons-manufacturing-ukraine/

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/18/politics/ukraine-critical-ammo-shortage-us-nato-grapple/index.html

    And I forgot to ask:

    Where do you get your supposed "facts" about how many missiles and
    shells Russia can produce?

    Straight from Mother Russia, of course.


    The approximate number of cruise missiles Russia has expended in the
    Ukraine is known from observations.

    But not the number that they've manufactured, doofus.

    The United States produces some 150 Tomahawk cruise missiles a year.
    Russia has expended somewhere around 5,000 similar missiles as of a
    year ago. Russia hasn't run out.

    What does that prove, doofus?

    For all you know, they have no more.

    And where do you get your figures on how many "similar missiles" (does
    that mean cruise missiles or just missiles?) Russia has used, doofus?
    Russia again?


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  • From Anonymous@anon@anon.net to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Sun Apr 14 22:49:50 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-13 22:03, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-12 23:05, Anonymous wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-04-12, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-04-11 19:55, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-10 23:28, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-09 23:14, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm.

    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidates
    to be unspeakable, TINEOE.

    This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Why?

    Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the >>>>>>>>>>>>> greater evil.   Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?

    Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely >>>>>>>>>>>> compromised by Putin.

    What did Biden do that actually hurt you?

    Was it the falling unemployment?

    The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what? >>>>>>>>>>>>

    United States GDP is fake and gay.

    Yes.

    Every fact presented with which you disagree is fake.

    Why is Russia able to produce enough missiles and shells, and the United
    States can't? That's a tell right there.

    And where do you get these supposed "facts"?

    Where do you get that the US can't produce enough missiles OR shells? >>>>>>>
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/19/artillery-ammunition-ukraine-pentagon/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/03/08/us-weapons-manufacturing-ukraine/

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/18/politics/ukraine-critical-ammo-shortage-us-nato-grapple/index.html

    And I forgot to ask:

    Where do you get your supposed "facts" about how many missiles and >>>>>> shells Russia can produce?

    Straight from Mother Russia, of course.


    The approximate number of cruise missiles Russia has expended in the
    Ukraine is known from observations.

    But not the number that they've manufactured, doofus.

    The United States produces some 150 Tomahawk cruise missiles a year.
    Russia has expended somewhere around 5,000 similar missiles as of a
    year ago. Russia hasn't run out.

    What does that prove, doofus?

    That Russia can outproduce the United States in weaponry at the very
    least.
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Sun Apr 14 21:22:11 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-04-14 19:49, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-13 22:03, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-12 23:05, Anonymous wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-04-12, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-04-11 19:55, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-10 23:28, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-09 23:14, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Orange Juju,
    every one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more harm.

    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidates
    to be unspeakable, TINEOE.

    This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Why?

    Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> greater evil.   Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when >>>>>>>>>>>>>> he was in?

    Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely >>>>>>>>>>>>> compromised by Putin.

    What did Biden do that actually hurt you?

    Was it the falling unemployment?

    The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what? >>>>>>>>>>>>>

    United States GDP is fake and gay.

    Yes.

    Every fact presented with which you disagree is fake.

    Why is Russia able to produce enough missiles and shells, and >>>>>>>>>> the United
    States can't? That's a tell right there.

    And where do you get these supposed "facts"?

    Where do you get that the US can't produce enough missiles OR >>>>>>>>> shells?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/19/artillery-ammunition-ukraine-pentagon/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/03/08/us-weapons-manufacturing-ukraine/

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/18/politics/ukraine-critical-ammo-shortage-us-nato-grapple/index.html

    And I forgot to ask:

    Where do you get your supposed "facts" about how many missiles and >>>>>>> shells Russia can produce?

    Straight from Mother Russia, of course.


    The approximate number of cruise missiles Russia has expended in the >>>>> Ukraine is known from observations.

    But not the number that they've manufactured, doofus.

    The United States produces some 150 Tomahawk cruise missiles a year.
    Russia has expended somewhere around 5,000 similar missiles as of a
    year ago. Russia hasn't run out.

    What does that prove, doofus?

    That Russia can outproduce the United States in weaponry at the very
    least.

    Simply wrong, doofus.
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Anonymous@anon@anon.net to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Tue Apr 16 01:10:48 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-14 19:49, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-13 22:03, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-12 23:05, Anonymous wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-04-12, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-04-11 19:55, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-10 23:28, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-09 23:14, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju,
    every one
    else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm.

    While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidates
    to be unspeakable, TINEOE.

    This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Why?

    Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greater evil.   Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?

    Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely >>>>>>>>>>>>>> compromised by Putin.

    What did Biden do that actually hurt you?

    Was it the falling unemployment?

    The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    United States GDP is fake and gay.

    Yes.

    Every fact presented with which you disagree is fake.

    Why is Russia able to produce enough missiles and shells, and the United
    States can't? That's a tell right there.

    And where do you get these supposed "facts"?

    Where do you get that the US can't produce enough missiles OR shells?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/19/artillery-ammunition-ukraine-pentagon/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/03/08/us-weapons-manufacturing-ukraine/

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/18/politics/ukraine-critical-ammo-shortage-us-nato-grapple/index.html

    And I forgot to ask:

    Where do you get your supposed "facts" about how many missiles and >>>>>>>> shells Russia can produce?

    Straight from Mother Russia, of course.


    The approximate number of cruise missiles Russia has expended in the >>>>>> Ukraine is known from observations.

    But not the number that they've manufactured, doofus.

    The United States produces some 150 Tomahawk cruise missiles a year.
    Russia has expended somewhere around 5,000 similar missiles as of a
    year ago. Russia hasn't run out.

    What does that prove, doofus?

    That Russia can outproduce the United States in weaponry at the very
    least.

    Simply wrong, doofus.

    The industrial base of the United States has been hollowed out, and we
    aren't producing more because we CAN'T. Stop being a retard.

    https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2024/02/06/supplier-bottlenecks-threaten-us-navy-effort-to-grow-arms-stockpiles/
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android on Tue Apr 16 11:37:31 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-04-15 22:10, Anonymous wrote:
    Where do you get your supposed "facts" about how many missiles and >>>>>>>>> shells Russia can produce?

    Straight from Mother Russia, of course.


    The approximate number of cruise missiles Russia has expended in the >>>>>>> Ukraine is known from observations.

    But not the number that they've manufactured, doofus.

    The United States produces some 150 Tomahawk cruise missiles a year. >>>>> Russia has expended somewhere around 5,000 similar missiles as of a
    year ago. Russia hasn't run out.

    What does that prove, doofus?

    That Russia can outproduce the United States in weaponry at the very
    least.

    Simply wrong, doofus.

    The industrial base of the United States has been hollowed out, and we
    aren't producing more because we CAN'T. Stop being a retard.

    https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2024/02/06/supplier-bottlenecks-threaten-us-navy-effort-to-grow-arms-stockpiles/

    You still haven't provided a single source that supports your contention
    that Russia's manufacturing ability for weapons is any better than the US's. --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system on Fri Apr 19 23:02:48 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Am 05.04.24 um 11:42 schrieb Arno Welzel:
    Tamborino, 2024-04-01 02:55:

    This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and Apple's
    update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted.

    RCS *is* end-to-end encrypted. But this is not mandatory, so using unencrypted connections is possible. But the Google messaging app in
    Android will show you if the recipient has RCS and also if the
    connection is encrypted.


    Yet, for conversations between Google Messages users, end-to-end encryption >> is now enabled on your Android phone by default.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/03/30/new-apple-iphone-16-pro-max-and-ios-18-leak-googles-imessage-warning/

    So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between
    Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and Android
    users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level of security.

    But this is not the fault of RCS.

    Sure. It is Google's fault.
    Secure communication is not possible with RCS and Apple does not want to
    adopt such an inferior level of security for iOS to iOS-communication.
    With RCS a MIM-attack is always possible. The NSA is already smiling ...

    RCS is dead and more than redundant.
    --
    "Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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