From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

In article <vo6qo0$3u0bg$1@dont-email.me>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

On 2025-02-08 05:32:31 +0000, Tyrone said:

On Feb 7, 2025 at 6:53:09 PM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com>

wrote:

It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One
reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just
another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(

Who cares? The Mac "App Store" is even more useless than the Windows "App Store".

Neither is necessary. Everthing you want/need can be downloaded from the developers' websites.

Except MacOS itself, Apple's own apps (Pages, etc.), many other apps
that the developers do not have on other websites.

The App Store has always felt very poorly implemented. I don't mind the
concept of it in principle, but it feels very un-Apple in its clunkiness.

Kinda related gripe; I have a fully-functioning, near-pristine original
iPad that I haven't been able to do a damn thing with for years as it is
unable to connect to the App Store, they cut its iOS off from connecting
to it. In an ideal world, Apple would allow for these outdated machines to still connect and access older versions of apps (it used to be the case
that I could buy/download an app on my modern iPhone, and then visit the
App Store on the iPad and be able to download an older, compatible version
of the app - this squeezed a few more years of use out of my iPad but
can't even do that now, and I didn't realise that until I had reset it to factory settings and went to grab a few key apps...).
--- Synchronet 3.20c-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

On 2025-02-07 21:39, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

On 08.02.25 06:32, Tyrone wrote:

On Feb 7, 2025 at 6:53:09 PM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One
reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just
another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(

Who cares? The Mac "App Store" is even more useless than the Windows "App >> Store".

Neither is necessary. Everthing you want/need can be downloaded from the
developers' websites.

+1
Nobody needs a Nanny.

Give the range of individuals I know who want to use computers and smartphones, I can tell you with absolute certainty that some people do, indeed, need a nanny.
--- Synchronet 3.20c-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

In comp.sys.mac.system Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:

On Feb 7, 2025 at 6:53:09?PM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(

Who cares? The Mac "App Store" is even more useless than the Windows "App Store".

Neither is necessary. Everthing you want/need can be downloaded from the developers' websites.

Not always. :(
--
"If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in him and he in God." --1 John 4:15. Still cold, dark, wet, slammy (e.g., BTTF1's Biff cleaning cars, snail mail deliverer, & being a farmer), etc.
Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
/\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
/ /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
| |o o| |
\ _ /
( )
--- Synchronet 3.20c-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

On Feb 8, 2025 at 8:57:21 AM PST, "scole" <scole> wrote:

In article <vo6qo0$3u0bg$1@dont-email.me>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

On 2025-02-08 05:32:31 +0000, Tyrone said:

On Feb 7, 2025 at 6:53:09 PM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com>

wrote:

It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One >>>> reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just >>>> another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(

Who cares? The Mac "App Store" is even more useless than the Windows "App >>> Store".

Neither is necessary. Everthing you want/need can be downloaded from the >>> developers' websites.

Except MacOS itself, Apple's own apps (Pages, etc.), many other apps
that the developers do not have on other websites.

The App Store has always felt very poorly implemented. I don't mind the concept of it in principle, but it feels very un-Apple in its clunkiness.

Kinda related gripe; I have a fully-functioning, near-pristine original
iPad that I haven't been able to do a damn thing with for years as it is unable to connect to the App Store, they cut its iOS off from connecting
to it. In an ideal world, Apple would allow for these outdated machines to still connect and access older versions of apps (it used to be the case
that I could buy/download an app on my modern iPhone, and then visit the
App Store on the iPad and be able to download an older, compatible version
of the app - this squeezed a few more years of use out of my iPad but
can't even do that now, and I didn't realise that until I had reset it to factory settings and went to grab a few key apps...).

My neighbor had one of these I pads she fished out of her closet while she was attempting to Marie Kondo her condo. The last email we could see on it was
over 3 years ago and it wouldn't connect to Gmail any more. Nor would it connect to iCloud or the Apple Store.

I couldn't factory reset it as it required logging into iCloud to do so. So I told her to take it to the Apple Store and tell them to shred it.
--
DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee...
--- Synchronet 3.20c-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

In article <kQQpP.19723$Dov4.1213@fx15.iad>, Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> wrote:

On Feb 8, 2025 at 8:57:21 AM PST, "scole" <scole> wrote:

Kinda related gripe; I have a fully-functioning, near-pristine original iPad that I haven't been able to do a damn thing with for years as it is unable to connect to the App Store, they cut its iOS off from connecting
to it. In an ideal world, Apple would allow for these outdated machines to still connect and access older versions of apps (it used to be the case that I could buy/download an app on my modern iPhone, and then visit the App Store on the iPad and be able to download an older, compatible version of the app - this squeezed a few more years of use out of my iPad but
can't even do that now, and I didn't realise that until I had reset it to factory settings and went to grab a few key apps...).

My neighbor had one of these I pads she fished out of her closet while she was
attempting to Marie Kondo her condo. The last email we could see on it was over 3 years ago and it wouldn't connect to Gmail any more. Nor would it connect to iCloud or the Apple Store.

I couldn't factory reset it as it required logging into iCloud to do so. So I told her to take it to the Apple Store and tell them to shred it.

This iPad ran two apps perfectly still; NewsTap, an iOS newsreader, and NetFlix. If I had known that I wasn't going to be able to be able to get
back into the App Store to get these two specific apps again, I wouldn't
have done the factory reset... Lesson learned there, research better
before doing anything irreversible...

I did look into jailbreaking it but I went round and round in circles on
that for several evenings, reading confusing and contradictory wikis and following dead links, so I gave up. The iPad is in a storage bin in my
garage, and will likely stay there forever more.
--- Synchronet 3.20c-Linux NewsLink 1.2