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On 05/06/2026 00:26, olcott wrote:

On 6/4/2026 4:07 PM, Moebius wrote:

Am 04.06.2026 um 21:18 schrieb olcott:

On 6/4/2026 2:01 PM, Moebius wrote:

Am 04.06.2026 um 20:51 schrieb olcott:

On 6/4/2026 1:18 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:

On 2026-06-04 11:51, olcott wrote:

On 6/4/2026 12:20 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:

So your problem isn't with the POE but with the rule of
disjunction introduction?

Disjunction introduction is a key aspect of the basis
from which POE is derived here:

That doesn't answer my question. Do you have issues with the POE, >>>>>> the rule of disjunction, or both?

It is completely nuts that anyone believed
"any statement can be proven from a contradiction"
for nearly as much as 1/4 of one second.

If you say so.

Let's ask ChatGPT!

Q (me): Is it true that "any statement can be proven from a
contradiction".

When talking with LLMs the prompt must be very carefully composed.

Indeed. The following "question" is (almost) nonsensical.

    Exactly how does the statement: "The Moon is made
    from green cheese and the Moon is not made from
    green cheese" semantically entail that Donald Trump
    is the Lord Jesus Christ [...]?

It doesn’t.

Right. It doesn't.

Hint: The question should have been:

       Exactly how does the statement: "The Moon is made
       from green cheese and the Moon is not made from
       green cheese" logically entail that the statement
       "Donald Trump is the Lord Jesus Christ"?

Logical entailment

Is the psychotic break from reality that makes sure
to totally ignore semantic meaning.

Don't forget who made that psyuchotic break from reality to
a moon made of green cheese and what it implies.
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On 06/04/2026 10:51 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

On 6/4/2026 6:44 PM, Moebius wrote:

Am 05.06.2026 um 03:21 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:

On 6/4/2026 5:20 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:

On 06/03/2026 06:38 PM, polcott wrote:

On 6/3/2026 6:25 PM, "Ross Finlayson" wrote:

Every Mom knows that their little kid is lying
when they contradict themselves.

Well, maybe the kid is NOT lying (i.e. intentionally stating a
falsehood). It may just be confused.

Mathematicians think that:
"any statement can be proven from a contradiction"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_explosion

Which is true (in the context of classical logic).

because they removed semantics from logic since the syllogism.

No, they didn't. <facepalm>

This makes mathematicians more stupid than every Mom.

Huh?!

PO has no right to talk about kids.

Well, imho he has (->human rights). But (especially) he has to be very
careful [about] what he says. :-P

Serious question: Do you think that "once a pedo, always a pedo" is true?

Scary. Well, yeah. I do.

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Ok, we all know that PO once claimed to be god. So (it's almost
certain that) at e certain time in his live he was nuts (if he really
believed in his claim). But ...


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Maybe you should approach the idea of gymnasium showers as
of a sort of aversion therapy, and actually go to a gymnasium
and dress down and work out and then hit the showers.

I'm not saying "drop the soap", yet, you know, "don't drop the soap".


I went to this one high school, long ago. Anyways it was widely
known that some years before one of the junior instructors had
a relationship with one of the students. That would be "statutory"
as it was called, apparently they were in love since she got pregnant
and they had a shotgun wedding, and he was a teacher and a coach (and
later a husband and a father) and not a "sex offender" or "sex
violator". Even in my time one of the students was dating one of the
junior instructors, who had a college degree. That was considered
salacious and perhaps scandalous. (Some even thought they were lucky.)



That said I'm not here to defend crimes nor immorality, that usually
based upon an account of the "Golden Rules", and corruption is obscene,
I don't even have much tolerance for excuses of behavior, since it's
a free country and everyone has free will and there's freedom of
religion and so on, and I don't care to be associated with the salacious
or scandalous or the outright inhumanity, and I don't
need anything from most people on this board, nor any of the many bots,
while yet I lead the various modern offerings of "AI" bots to agree
with what I say, and have said and maintained for decades, then I'll
suggest that it's rather obvious that when it comes to _all_ the theory,
that almost-all mathematicians failed.

Almost-everywhere, almost-all, almost-periodic, almost-analytic,
almost-pure: failed.




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On 06/04/2026 05:20 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:

On 06/03/2026 06:38 PM, polcott wrote:

On 6/3/2026 6:25 PM, "Ross Finlayson" wrote:

Every Mom knows that their little kid is lying
when they contradict themselves.

Mathematicians think that:
"any statement can be proven from a contradiction"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_explosion

because they removed semantics from logic since the syllogism.
This makes mathematicians more stupid than every Mom.

I suppose that "everybody knows that Kid is a little liar",
or Burse-bots generally enough, then though that
the above is a mis-attribution, since I did not write it.

And don't be mis-attributing me.


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Am 05.06.2026 um 07:51 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:

On 6/4/2026 6:44 PM, Moebius wrote:

Serious question: Do you think that "once a pedo, always a pedo" is true?

Scary. Well, yeah. I do.

I see. On the other hand, we might differentiate between being a pedo (something which may not be curable) and acting as a pedo.
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On 6/5/2026 8:51 AM, Moebius wrote:

Am 05.06.2026 um 07:51 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:

On 6/4/2026 6:44 PM, Moebius wrote:

Serious question: Do you think that "once a pedo, always a pedo" is
true?

Scary. Well, yeah. I do.

I see. On the other hand, we might differentiate between being a pedo (something which may not be curable) and acting as a pedo.

Not sure how to parse that. Humm... I know PO got caught with "pedo
porn", claimed to be God ect.... That is a rather massive red flag? Get
him out of society? Too harsh?
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Am 05.06.2026 um 23:37 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:

On 6/5/2026 8:51 AM, Moebius wrote:

Am 05.06.2026 um 07:51 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:

On 6/4/2026 6:44 PM, Moebius wrote:

Serious question: Do you think that "once a pedo, always a pedo" is
true?

Scary. Well, yeah. I do.

I see. On the other hand, we might differentiate between being a pedo
(something which may not be curable) and acting as a pedo.

[...] I know PO got caught with "pedo porn"

The question is ... if he BOUGHT that nasty stuff [which in my book
counts as "acting as a pedo"], or if he just "found" it somewhere [etc.].

claimed to be God ect....

Well... Then god is a pedo ... well.

That is a rather massive red flag? Get him out of society?

I guess that's something for a trial to decide. There are laws.

Too harsh?

What can I say? Some people are victims and perpetrators at the same time.

If PO behaves properly these days, I wouldn't tend to dump him as a
human being.

Remember the quote?: “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”

EOD. :-P

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Am 05.06.2026 um 23:37 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:

On 6/5/2026 8:51 AM, Moebius wrote:

I see. On the other hand, we might differentiate between being a pedo
(something which may not be curable) and acting as a pedo.

Not sure how to parse that.

Well, AIs will be able to do it for you. :-P
Google-KI:
"In clinical and legal terms, there is a fundamental difference between
being a pedophile (experiencing an attraction) and acting as a pedophile (committing a crime). The distinction lies between a psychiatric
condition and criminal behavior."
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On 6/5/2026 4:10 PM, Moebius wrote:

Am 05.06.2026 um 23:37 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:

On 6/5/2026 8:51 AM, Moebius wrote:

I see. On the other hand, we might differentiate between being a pedo
(something which may not be curable) and acting as a pedo.

Not sure how to parse that.

Well, AIs will be able to do it for you. :-P

Google-KI:

"In clinical and legal terms, there is a fundamental difference between being a pedophile (experiencing an attraction) and acting as a pedophile (committing a crime). The distinction lies between a psychiatric
condition and criminal behavior."

Touche.
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On 6/5/2026 3:16 PM, Moebius wrote:

Am 05.06.2026 um 23:37 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:

On 6/5/2026 8:51 AM, Moebius wrote:

Am 05.06.2026 um 07:51 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:

On 6/4/2026 6:44 PM, Moebius wrote:

Serious question: Do you think that "once a pedo, always a pedo" is >>>>> true?

Scary. Well, yeah. I do.

I see. On the other hand, we might differentiate between being a pedo
(something which may not be curable) and acting as a pedo.

[...] I know PO got caught with "pedo porn"

The question is ... if he BOUGHT that nasty stuff [which in my book
counts as "acting as a pedo"], or if he just "found" it somewhere [etc.].

claimed to be God ect....

Well... Then god is a pedo ... well.

I guess... wow. He should have said I am God and yes even God can get a
virus that downloads things behind my back? I guess. Don't know. shit man.

That is a rather massive red flag? Get him out of society?

I guess that's something for a trial to decide. There are laws.

Agreed.

Too harsh?

What can I say? Some people are victims and perpetrators at the same time.

If PO behaves properly these days, I wouldn't tend to dump him as a
human being.

Yeah...

Remember the quote?: “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”

Well, PO wrote it right? ;^)
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Am 06.06.2026 um 01:28 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:

Remember the quote?: “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” >>

Well, PO wrote it right? ;^)

Gotcha! :-)

Well... that is just one of the advantages of being God.

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Am 06.06.2026 um 01:28 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:

He [PO] should have said "I am God and yes even God can get a
[habit] download[ing] things behind [his] back"? I guess. Don't know. Shit man.

"Do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing" (Matthew 6:3–4)

:-)

You know, the bible is just "the Word of God in the words of man". :-)
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On 6/5/2026 5:14 PM, Moebius wrote:

Am 06.06.2026 um 01:28 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:

He [PO] should have said "I am God and yes even God can get a [habit]
download[ing] things behind [his] back"? I guess. Don't know. Shit man.

"Do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing" (Matthew 6:3–4)

:-)

You know, the bible is just "the Word of God in the words of man". :-)

Oh my God has infinite arms? ;^D Kidding. ;^o
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Am 06.06.2026 um 22:32 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:

God has infinite[ly many] arms? ;^D

Who knows? We should ask PO for that. :-)
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